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  1. I would like to congratulate Dota and Bay Area Guy for this new blog that they have started. They are two of the finest commenters on my site. I think this is going to be a great website.

    • Bay Area Guy says:

      Thank you for the support, Robert. I will continue to remain one of your commenters, but I’m also glad to have a platform of my own.

      Dota and I are going to definitely be committed to making this a great blog.

    • Dota says:

      We’ll still be around your blog Robert, count on it. And thank you very much for your endorsement!

  2. Bay Area Guy, how old are you? Just curious.

    • Bay Area Guy says:

      I am in my early 20s.

      • I am 16. All of us thinkers start at an early age, although a few become the thinking type after an altering life experience.

      • Bay Area Guy says:

        I must say, you are quite an articulate and insightful guy for someone your age. I was somewhat of a thinker at 16, but I was too busy hanging out with doofuses and navigating the social waters of high school to articulate myself the way I do now.

        But hey, it’s good to start somewhere!

      • I never had a good social life or anything like that, so I was kind of forced to do something for entertainment, so I began pondering about philosophical questions, and what makes us act the way we do, that kind of stuff.

        I also was bullied a lot, mainly by my fellow Black students, so that opened my eyes to race realism. I began exploring the biochemichal reasons responsible for differences in racial aggression, such as testosterone levels. I began to abandon my PC Left way of thinking, and really started viewing the world from an honest perspective.

        So I do not consider myself smarter or anything, just blessed (or cursed?) with the type of environment to jumpstart my thinking brain.

  3. euroglory says:

    Haven’t seen you guys at Robert Lindsay’s site recently. I like Cablesian but the comments section there isn’t what it used to be when you guys plus atheist Indian and Beatrix were around. oh, and gay state girl, always kind of liked her.

    As you now, I have an interest in and appreciation of Indian spirituality but as somebody who is more aligned with Buddhism than Hinduism, I think I should be able to embrace the criticism of caste. I find Chomsky’s observation about the indifference of Indian elites to the plight of the poor very telling. I look forward to reading what you have to write.

    • euroglory says:

      btw this is Steve! I have a wordpress account called euroglory. It refers to the euro 2012 football/soccer competition, not something political.

    • Dota says:


      Good to have you here as well 🙂

      Btw, does the site prevent you from posting without first logging into your WP account? Or did you just choose to in this case?

      • euroglory says:

        I think it made me log in. I have to log in at RL’s too sometimes. Although ‘euroglory’ was automatically in the name bar thingy for some reason. RL’s blog knows I’m called Steve.


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  4. Hey, Dota and/or BAG, do any of you listen to Classical Music?

    • Dota says:

      Mostly Strauss, Chopin, Liszt and occasionally (depending on my mood) Beethoven.

      • I love Beethoven’s 9th Symphony, Mozart’s Eine Kleine Nachtmusik Movt. 1, and Requiem in D Minor, and Tchaikovsky’s Nutcracker and Brahms’ Hungarian Dance. Those are just my favorites. I used to be a (c)Rap fan, and also listened to rock and pop, however, I have given up all mainstream music for Classical music. It is just so beautiful and pleasing to the ears.

  5. Hey Dota, does Canada have its own version of Affirmative Action, Section 8, PETA, NAACP, etc? I have heard from a lot of people that a lot of African-Canadians have been stirring up trouble in Canada lately. Not trying to offend Blacks or anything.

    • Dota says:

      The Canadian Employment Equity Act is the big one as far as I know. Government jobs atleast are required to give preferential treatment to women, disabled people, aboriginals and visible minorities. My HR courses frequently emphasized the Employment equity act.

      Plus Aboriginals get preferential treatment when pursuing higher education. But I don’t know the details there. I honestly don’t know a whole lot about this subject.

  6. mixedraced says:

    Many mulattoes i know/knew think similarly like me towards blacks and supporting a mulattocentrist idea.

  7. batterytrain says:

    I think all mulattoes should be banned as should Black Africans from the Western world and find their own way. Mulattoes are mediocre compared to other advanced races such as the Han, Iranic, Assyrians, Armenoids, Germanics, Celts, Slavs, Meds, Persians, Aryans etc etc who have produced far more advanced civilizations earlier than any African civ in history. There is nothing special about them and I think that the civilized races should inhabit the Earth and not black Africans/mulattoes who are still nothing special compared to them and won’t be.

    • mixedraced says:

      Myself and others like me believe the only way is our own way. Many of my friends, including myself sadly, dislike our parents (mother & father)races with a passion. We never felt connected to our parents and always felt different. Our race won’t advance further towards our total potential if we’re continuously categorized as black, a hindering identity, and live amongst whites and blacks whom despise us and slow us down.

    • Batterytrain says:

      All race are different and are variants; a lot of West Asians and Europeans are the products of supposedly African-Asian-Neanderthal-Denisovan hybrids; you guys are still not qualified to be a separate new race.

      I do however hope than, that you guys do find some land and produce an advanced civil technological civilization with your own identity and culture. There are places on Earth where you could do this; there are empty places in Africa, Asia, South America where you could do this I am sure, that are out of the reaches of Negroids. You could go to an extreme place like Siberia or choose isolated pacific islands; I am sure there are mountainous places in Africa that you could occupy or other empty plots of lands that are cut off and have natural barriers against undesirables. The test would be getting man power, access to food and water production, finding materials for civilization, that would be the real IQ test for you guys.

      Be like the Mormons in Utah or the Chinese when they were first settling China, use your intelligence to make a barren, harsh and empty land into thriving rich sophisticated places of mark.

  8. Dota says:

    No idea. I was kind of curious about it too.

  9. mixedraced says:

    By the way i’m being serious. Mulattocentrism isn’t some random rubbish i pulled from somewhere. There are enough of the conditions met for mulattoes to make our their move toward that goal.

    Dota, have you ever heard of mulattocentrism before.

    • Dota says:

      No I have not actually. I don’t really know anything about the subject. I do know one mulatto girl here in town and she’s one of the most talented artists I’ve known. Lost touch with her when real life got a little too busy/stressful. That’s the sum total of my experience.

      • Batterytrain says:

        You guys needs more traffic to this blog and more commentators; I think you need to sort of spice things up and start posting more controversial topics with more questionable to attention gathering titles like Robert lindsay or other Anatoly Karlin’s. Do you go visit forum.biodiversity by any chance btw?

      • Dota says:

        We do need a lot more traffic but we’re still of to a slow, but steady start. We’ve tried posting on other blogs, reddit, ect… I suppose it takes time to build up traffic. We’re open to suggestions.

        I’m not really into HBD that much, and I suspect neither is BAG.

      • batterytrain says:

        Dota what is your IQ if you don’t mind me asking?

      • Dota says:

        I’m not very bright. IQ is somewhere between 110-115. Verbal IQ is 125.

      • Batterytain says:

        Bay area guy, what is your IQ btw?

    • WmarkW says:

      In modern times, Mulattoes exploit the one-drop rule, while not suffering the deprivations of those who did. Like the best known case, who’s descended from slaves on his white side and slave traders on his African one.

    • batterytrain says:

      BTW Bay area guy what is your IQ if you don’t mind me asking?

      • Bay Area Guy says:

        The funny thing is, I don’t actually know off the top of my head. I believe that I underwent some kind of IQ test late in middle school, but I still haven’t gotten my parents to reveal the results (if they still even remember them/have them stored as records).

      • Eren Jäger says:

        It may not look it…..but my IQ is 165. However, I am only 13, so I am roughly equivalent in intelligence to a 23 year old with a 115 IQ. I took a special formatted MENSA test recently, and I took one for my age group. They give out standard official tests to those 14 and older only. By the time I am 15, I will be equal in intelligence to Robert Lindsay, with a 147 IQ. When I am 16, my intelligence will have surpassed Robert Lindsay’s. Sorry to brag, but I am just one arrogant, narcisscistic, conceited little prick who LOVES acting high-and-mighty and know-it-all. That is me.

  10. RunswithScissors says:

    BaG, I know you mentioned that you were half Greek and obviously this site is devotes a lot of time to race, ethnic and nationalist issue. So I was wondering what your opinion on the Golden Dawn is. Defenders of the Greeks? Thugs? Troublemakers?

    • batterytrain says:

      Another nationalist movement as a reaction to movement of unwanted peoples; there are loads of people from the MENA and African regions trying to get in and escape their shitty nations to Europe through Albania and Greece. Gadaffi and the other MENA dictators kept a firm control and shot down illegal Africans from trying to get into Europe as well as MENA’s. Now that Europe shot itself in the foot, there is a horde of Africans coming their way to Europe without Gadaffi and others to shoot them on the way and keep a curb on the unwanted migrants. Greece is a perfect conduit to Europe and WE in general, and that is there prime directive. Of course they don’t cause any problems, leech off the refugee asylum system, put a drain and burden on the local economy, create violence and conflict, become propieters of criminal activity, diseases, social dysfunction.

      The Golden dawn is just a perfect natural reaction to these new problems that are occurring and to the REAL day to day conflicts that these people have to face. That is why these nationalist come to rise, because of real problems that they have to tolerate and deal with on a day to day basis. Ofc this doesn’t make sense to Americans because they don’t have the capacity to act that way anymore and they don’t have to deal with these serious problems on a real life basis.

      • Cyrus says:

        What “MENA” countries are we talking about here? I heard there were lot’s of Pakis and Egyptians and in the past Iraqis making the “boat ride.” As of late, countries like Morocco and Algeria have actually have a reverse flow of migration from France, sort of like Mexicans heading back home form the U.S in recent years.

        I was under the impression that most of the sub-Saharan Africans use Spain and Italy as there point of illegal entry.

      • Batterytrain says:

        Greece, Albania, Spain and Italy all receive “political asylum” refugees and other “immigrants”. There has been an increase in immigration due to the North African dictators falling apart, and now there is a thriving business of smuggling Africans into Southern European countries and I am sure we all know what they really want.

        I haven’t heard of a “reverse migration”, but i’m sure that those people love living in France and taking advantage of the welfare system just like they do in the Netherlands and elsewhere while complaining about racism, killing people for insulting their religion, and forcing retarded rules on their generous host societies to align with their primitive backward ways of life.

      • I am pretty sure Batterytrain (Xera) and Cyrus IP should be different : P

  11. Bay Area Guy, George Zimmerman was recently found “NOT GUILTY” on all charges of the death of Trayvon. My friends in California tell me ghetto Black people there are rioting and causing public obstruction over there. I understand you live in California, so is this true? Are any Blacks having Trayvon Martin demonstrations or marches near you?

    • Bay Area Guy says:

      I currently live in an area that isn’t very black, so I haven’t seen any demonstrations or rioting. At most, some social justice friends of mine on facebook have expressed their outrage.

      I know that in Oakland, a few things have been smashed. But for the most part, the protests have been peaceful.

      My take on this whole affair was that if George Zimmerman were Latino on his mother’s side, as opposed to his father’s, and had a Spanish surname, there wouldn’t be as much outrage.

      • shadydawgcoward says:

        Well I am German on my father’s side. Zimmerman is a Germanic surname. It still sounds Anglo, though, which explains the American left’s outrage of the death of TM.

    • Cyrus says:

      They blocked the 10 Freeway near Cal State LA for a while. Surprisingly a lot of the “protestors” are no black. White college kids, the “Pacifica crowd,” Aztlan types, etc…Morons, the lot of them. Make people late for work in SoCal over something that happened over 3,000 miles away. Just for that very reason, I’m glad Zimmerman was found innocent.

      • Bay Area Guy says:

        White college kids, the “Pacifica crowd,”

        Ugh, self-righteous white leftists are the worst. One white leftist friend of mine on facebook even changed her profile to a picture that’s purely the color black, to show solidarity for Trayvon Martin.

        On another note, if there were race riots, wouldn’t it be downright hilarious if white liberals were the chief white victims of black rioters?

  12. Bay Area Guy says:

    It should also be noted that this whole George Zimmerman trial has generated more outrage on the part of the American left than any of the NSA wiretapping revelations, or the Obama Administration’s drone strikes.

    Ditto for gay marriage. Various lefties, including some the young liberal female friends of mine on facebook, can’t stop liking statuses related to pro-gay marriage propaganda.

    In typical fashion, the American left will pump their fists in temporary support of some pet cause. But when all is said and done, they’ll sheepishly go along with the growing erosion of civil liberties, economic justice, and other far greater problems.

    But hey, we’re getting outraged over a black boy’s death! We’re courageous and progressive!

    • Cyrus says:

      Couldn’t have said it better myself. Snowden = perhaps one of the biggest news story of the 21st century thus far…And all were hear in the press is about some random altercation in Florida that resulted in a death(happens everyday in America), and if Joe and Jim or Mary and Susan can legally be married. ‘Cause you know, the continued downward economic, scientific and cultural death spiral of western civilization depends on it.

  13. Eren Jäger says:

    Hey BAG, Dota, could you delete my comment above?

    • Bay Area Guy says:

      Sure, just curious though, why?

      • Dota says:

        He was referring to a comment where he said that his comments weren’t getting though. That’s the one I deleted and restored the one you accidentally deleted BAG. No harm done.

      • Eren Jäger says:

        I was worried that someone could see my email “shadydawgcoward” and post a bunch of troll comments under my name. I have OCD, and that was one of my obsessions. However, I now realize that you have to log in to post under my name. Since they do not have my p@$$word, I have no reason to worry.

      • Eren Jäger says:

        I am “Cablinasian Coward”, by the way. I have changed my name because I am actually a 13 year old White kid in NC. I was tired of lying.

      • Bay Area Guy says:

        @ Eren

        I guess my reaction to your revelation is mixed. On the one hand, I’m impressed that you are able to write the way you write for a 13 year old.

        At the same time, I saw no need for the deception.

        I’m curious, by claiming to be multiracial, were you trying to give your opinions on race greater legitimacy? If so, there’s really no need for that. Your opinion as a white person is just as relevant as a black person’s opinion.

        No need to buy into this whole “wisdom of the non-whites” crap.

      • Eren Jäger says:

        I was just trying to create a window to vent my anger at non-White minorities. That is where I created Coward, and I posted about 1,000+ posts under Coward at Robert Lindsay’s blog. I do not think a minority’s views are more legitimate than mine, quite on the contrary, I think that the White man has historically proven to be capable of great wisdom, intelligence, and foresight, in constrast to some of the lesser accomplished Black populations. I did not pretend to be a Black boy to make my opinions credible, I did it because of my emotional instability.

        As far as my age goes, it is true that my knowledge and mental state is beyond that of a normal 13 year old. I do have a very high IQ. My name is not actually Eren Jaegar, that name is that of the protagonist in a TV series “Attack the Titans”. I chose that name to celebrate my Germanic heritage. Neither is the avatar my actual picture. I chose that picture because it bears significant phenotypical resemblance to me, except for the hair colour. My hair is red.

        I could consider my high IQ a blessing. However, on the flip side, there is a curse. My OCD symptoms are highly intricate and overwhelming as a result of this. My social life is also nonexistent. It has been more of a curse than a blessing to me. And I also have a insatisfiable craving for attention. My dad works for the government and is away all the time, my mom is sort of crazy and researches astrophysics the whole day.

        I definetly do not buy into the “wisdom of the non-Whites.” World history has shown that the wisdom and knowledge of Western European Whites have been the benefactors of East Asians, Black Africans, Native Americans(maybe), even other dark Caucasians, such as Arabs or Indians. I am White and proud, and ain’t nothing wrong with that. One day the White man’s rule will end, as it is already starting to. However, I do not think the various Blacks, Amerindians, and Hispanics will run the country as efficiently. East Asians possibly could, I will admit. They have been both highly civilized and highly innovative in the past, though in recent times Asians are not as innovative yet they are highly civilized.

  14. mixedraced says:

    You’ll have to include that western europeans hugely influenced the development of other lilly whites, the eastern/oriental europeans.

    Also western europe was a huge quagmire for much of its history post-roman empire. Why do you think the French mass-revolted?

    • Eren Jäger says:

      Western Europeans IN the geographical area of NW Europe were mostly less advanced than their Eastern Euro, Arab, and E Asian neighbors. However, the genetic pool of Western Europeans were also in different parts of the globe. The Scythians, Rus, Vandals, Carthaginians, Tocharians, Persians, among others, carried a predominantly NW European gene pool. A huge percent of Ancient Egyptian royalty carried the R1b subclade marker. The Mongols, escpecially Genghis Khan, had a good admixture of NW Euro genes, about 13.7%, autosomally. Julius Caesar was rumored to have red hair and blue eyes. Genghis Khan had red hair and green eyes, and the ancient Manchurians had a small admixture of NW genes as well.

  15. mixedraced says:

    Eren, how high is your “high” iq?

    • Eren Jäger says:

      My dad has an IQ of 160, my mom is 135. They are both incredibly smart, and I must be somewhere in the 130-160 range, but I never got an IQ test because of OCD issues; I never know when a panic attack will pop up, due to that, I am scared to get tested, as I do not want to spazz out during the test; it is just one of my obsessions. My brother is 150, and my little 9 YO sister is 120. I am pretty sure my IQ is higher than yours, Axum, no offense. It could possibly be higher than Robert Lindsay’s, who is IQ 147, although I am not sure about that. After all, I do make straight A+s without studying, (although my little sister does my homework), and I do this while suffering from extreme OCD and on 40mg of Prozac. So yeah, I would say my IQ is pretty high for a 13 year old, although that is not really a good thing for my social life or mental stability and health. I also suffer from periodic grandoise delusions and I have to take antipsychotics.

  16. Eren Jäger says:

    Thanks. The mulatto act was just to get on Robert Lindsay’s good side, who has a high opinion of assimilatory Uncle Toms. He does not like White Nationalists such as I, and I doubt anyone on there would have taken me seriously if they knew I was 13. I would have pretended to be in my 20-30s, however, my prose is juvenile and experienced writers can immediately tell that I am a kid, so I had to push for 16, which seemed reasonable. I have frequent periods of emotional outrage and psychotic insanity, so I frequently ranted on there, since I have no social life, which eventually led to me getting banned. No one on there believed I was mulatto either, due to my frequent pro-WN and anti-non-White rants.

    • Eren Jäger says:

      My real name is not Eren Jaegar, that is a character from a Japanese anime series called Attack the Titans. I chose the name to reflect on my Germanic origins. My father’s mother immigrated from Germany, and my paternal grandfather is half German himself, and half English. My mother is part Finnish, Danish, Irish, and Chinese.

  17. RunswithScissors says:

    Dota and BaG, you’ve both written a few posts about Western women recently. This has got me thinking about gender relations and gender roles. Please entertain me.

    Many MRAs and feminists both like to bash the “nice guy.” To MRAs the nice guy is a castrated beta male, in fact, hardly a real male at all. He degrades our gender by acquiescing to womens’ capricious and irrational whims at every opportunity. Or he is an insufferable white knight cockblocking his fellows at every turn.

    To feminists, he is a duplicitous worm waiting for the opportunity to penetrate their sisters’ hallowed poons. Or a satisfactorily castrated eunuch; a useful rube.

    Niceguys — whatever they are — aside, I’ve been wondering what has happened to the nice girl.

    It seems nice girls were once held in high esteem. Now, most North American women I meet are not quite men with boobs, but certainly not “nice.” More like standoffish, brash and judgmental–and often hopelessly shallow.

    I don’t feel intimidated by all that and can get along with them well enough if need be. But, as a man, and I think as a general human being as well, I am certainly not charmed by it.


    • Bay Area Guy says:

      @ RunswithScissors

      That’s an excellent comment.

      I think a lot of the “nice guy” (which they capitalize as Nice Guy TM) bashing on the part of feminists is rationalization gymnastics on their part, and an attempt to cover their tracks. Allow me to explain.

      For years, feminists have been complaining about “hegemonic masculinity” and how men are only allowed to be cool, angry, aren’t allowed to be emotional, etc. They lament the fact that men are socialized to be jerks, and encourage men to be emotionally open, kind, respectful of women, etc.

      Well, guess what? Plenty of guys do just that, and they end up as incels or in the friendzone. Problem is, even as women claim to want nice guys, deep down they’re repulsed by these nice, sensitive men. They want men who exhibit dominance and sociopathic qualities. There’s a reason 50 Shades of Grey is so popular.

      Of course, feminists refuse to recognize that their advice is crap, so whenever a nice guy fails to find a girl, they insist that he “wasn’t really nice,” and that a true nice guy wouldn’t care if he didn’t get laid. You see, if a guy were truly nice, he would be getting girls all the time.

      Re: MRA’s

      Hmm, I don’t know about that. MRA’s and various writers within the manosphere have often criticized feminist “Nice Guy TM” bashing, and have constantly pointed out the hurdles that nice guys face in the dating market.

      They don’t hate nice guys, they hate white knights and manginas (ie. male feminists). A guy can be nice without constantly rescuing a damsel in distress or supplicating to women.

      • Bay Area Guy says:


        Now, most North American women I meet are not quite men with boobs, but certainly not “nice.” More like standoffish, brash and judgmental–and often hopelessly shallow.

        This does seem like a problem with North American women in general, but I also think it’s a regional thing.

        When I visited my family in the Midwest, I met this girl at a party. She was friendly, warm, cultured, had interesting things to say, knew how to flirt, and overall exhibited great femininity. We hit it off great, and to this day talk/text each other long distance.

        Yes, I know, this is purely anecdotal, but I felt like I witnessed more warmth and charm from that girl alone than I had in California for many years.

        That got me thinking. I’ve noticed that a lot of problems with “American women” seem to be endemic to women from the Northeast or West Coast.

        It’s no coincidence that almost all of the most prominent PUA’s and manosphere writers emerged from cities such as Toronto, Washington D.C, L.A. (ie. Tom Leykis, who’s about as mainstream of a red pill guy as you can get), and other areas.

        I think there’s something toxic about affluent, pretentious urban environments. They seem to breed narcissism, shallowness, vapidity, and vanity (particularly in women).

        You don’t see too many manosphere writers from states such as Minnesota or Ohio. There’s probably a reason.

        Ditto for feminists. They all seem to exist in places such as Seattle, Portland, New York. S.F, and similar cities. And, not surprisingly, the women in those places have a reputation for being very shallow and snobbish.

    • Dota says:

      It seems nice girls were once held in high esteem. Now, most North American women I meet are not quite men with boobs, but certainly not “nice.” More like standoffish, brash and judgmental–and often hopelessly shallow.

      I suppose western feminists would predictably deconstruct the ”nice girl” as a set of socially conditioned behaviours predicated on patriarchal standards.

      A woman must be raised a certain way to be ”nice.” Since society holds women up to no standards, the nice girl is going the way of the dinosaur. Remember, in patriarchal societies it is not men that perpetuate the system, it is women. My own mother (as an example) despises feminism with a passion. Good women are not born, they are raised.

      The western woman, as I’ve already stated in my posts, tends to be schizophrenic and paranoid. On one hand she is expected to bond with a man, expects that man to take initiative and be strong, yet resents his strength on account of her feminist brainwashing. She is at war with herself. Now imagine the group behaviour of such a paranoid class. The dynamics that come to play in the mating rituals of white people are as fascinating to behold as they are bizarre.

      • Cyrus says:

        Dota, you Mom sounds kinda like mine. She never could understand the behavior of “modern” white American women. Especially how they seemed to on some level despise/hold jealousy towards their own husbands success, etc.

      • It sounds very much to me that your problem with American women is the fact that you are not seen as worthwhile by worthwhile women. Just because your mother is a dinosaur doesn’t make that mentality acceptable. I would suggest that you take a deep look inside yourself and see what it is about YOU that forces you toward such nasty, blanket judgements. “Feminist Brainwashing”? Is that the opposite of “Patriarchal Brainwashing”? Strong, secure women with self esteem and self respect seem to really bother you for some reason. Is it because you cannot control and abuse them? Because they may be better than you at your job? Are we paranoid because we actually realized that, through history, and sometimes even today, we are paid less and given less opportunity than men? That our abilities and strengths are ignored? Are you truly that threatened?

        An honest question. What is your definition of “feminism”? Is it any woman who exhibits self respect, self determination, a strong sense of self worth? Or just someone who doesn’t drop to her knees when you shake your junk in her direction? I am really curious. . .

        I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at your knee-jerk prejudice. All women who don’t bow down to you are feminazis who don’t know their place? Come on – a woman “knows how to flirt” so that makes her more desirable than a woman who can actually hold down her end of an intelligent conversation? Or is it the fact that she is able to hold down a high power job and have a family at the same time that so offends you?

        Let’s see. All women who aren’t submissive are feminist trash. Well, I guess that means all blacks and Mexicans are gang bangers, all Middle Easterners are terrorists, and all white people are inbred, trailer-trash skinheads. Which are you?

      • Dota says:

        Oh looky, a feminist that has strayed out of her echo chamber and wandered onto our humble website. Welcome Madam, feeling a little giddy? Relax, it will pass.

        My definition of feminism? Simple. It is that bogus anti-foundationalist ideology that claims gender roles are socially constructed and that patriarchy is a unique evil. It is that bogus worldview that claims that women were always oppressed by men when in reality, women have always stood by their men and participated in patriarchy.

        It is that ideology that has turned an entire generation of women into useful idiots, unwittingly serving the elite class of Society by helping broaden the tax base, and lower wages thereby destroying the working class. It is that scam which spreads the wealth to a non productive sector of society (think women who vacation twice a year on child support) while contributing nothing to culture or civilization. I trust that answers your question?

      • Bay Area Guy says:

        Is it any woman who exhibits self respect, self determination, a strong sense of self worth?

        Ah yes, the standard “men are just intimidated by confident/successful women” canard.

        The average, “empowered” American woman can hardly be described as exhibiting self-respect or a strong sense of self worth. All of her “empowerment” hasn’t stopped her from being a mentally ill basketcase.

        And this is just nonsense.

        And drank vodka and took pills to dull the pain of being totally, unequivocally unfulfilled?

        Oh yes, because today’s women wouldn’t dream of consuming drugs to dull their neuroses or relieve their boredom.

        Nor would they drink themselves silly and then apprise netizens on facebook about their hangovers the next day.

        Nor do they read such crap as 50 Shades of Grey to satisfy their screwy and unfulfilled fantasies.

        Don’t delude yourself. The average, liberated American woman is hardly content or fulfilled. If not for the fact that she’s cosseted by the state and media, she would cease being “empowered” pretty quickly.

      • Dota says:

        Just because your mother is a dinosaur doesn’t make that mentality acceptable.

        My mother has more resilience in her little finger than you have in your entire body. She has stood by her children and husband during excruciatingly hard times. And when she’s gone, her children will treasure her legacy.

        You on the other hand, are destined to die alone. Or you could be buried with your degrees. /applause

  18. RunswithScissors says:

    There is a great need for moderate Occidentalist sites like this one and an even greater need for an Occidental-centric movement.

    We’ve all bemoaned the failures, idiocies, hypocrisies an dangerous dogmas of multiculturalism to death. But I think it’s worthwhile looking at the dangers of a reactionary backlash to that. You already see evidence of it in most of the White Nationalist outlets and hints of it in the HBD crowd.

    White Nationalists are bad news for White People. Most of them have very stringent definitions on what it means to be White and I suspect that eastern Europeans, southern Europeans, probably Catholics, certainly Jews and liberals/economic leftists like Robert Lindsay do not fit the definition.

    Many if not most WNs are simply old school Nordicists–an ideology I don’t understand as most of Western Civilization has sprung up in or been a direct result of the culture in Italy since the Romans. Hell, the New World itself was discovered by Spaniards and Italians, and first settled by the Papist Spaniards and French! But, yah, some Englishman and Germans are responsible for the whole of European civilization. A lot of these people seem to think Slavs are dirty asiatics one minute than praise the venal violence of Gopnik Russian skinheads the next. My takeaway from this is that contrary to their claims that they just love their people, they simply hate others. Plain, old-fashioned bigotry. This does nothing to advance the interests of everyday Whites like me. Heightening or creating racial tensions in multiethnic big cites does nothing for Whites who already live in multiethnic big cities (or anyone else).

    I suspect that if WNs were ever to become an explicit, public movement, you’d soon see them labeling any White person that has non-White friends or acquaintances or who has done business with non-Whites as a race traitor.

    These people are not so much pro-White or pro-Western as they are anti-everything else. Many of them also seem to be obsessed with Blacks, Gays and Jews to the point of parody. Weird.

    This is my idea of a healthy White consciousness:

    • Dota says:

      Stormfronters have already denounced our site lol. But I agree with everything you’ve said up there. There has to be a sane middle path between Nordicism, Dogmatic white nationalism and HBD. We like to think that our site embraces this middle way as our goal is to engage the average white joe.

  19. A Very Offended Rant
    30 Jul

    I write for those women who do not speak, for those who do not have a voice because they were so terrified, because we are taught to respect fear more than ourselves. We’ve been taught that silence would save us, but it won’t. – Audre Lorde

    Speaking very generally, I find that women are spiritually, emotionally, and often physically stronger than men. – Gary Oldman

    The link below is to a post from the site of a blogger I have been following for a while. To be perfectly clear, the particular post I am responding to was not posted by Gabriel, but on his site in response to a blog he wrote about the effect of porn on human relationships; “Why Real Men Shouldn’t Fanaticize About Women”. The full post may be accessed at:


    Gabriel makes some exceptionally good points regarding the detrimental effect of porn on the ability of men to having loving, realistic relationships with women. I would also point out that his points should also apply to women and their addictions to porn – yes, it is out there, we just don’t talk about it is all. Women can become just as addicted to porn in the books they read. The typical erotica novel hero is no more realistic than the typical female porn star. And the typical male is not totally ripped while still being totally in touch with his feelings. Or totally alpha, but this whole ‘totally alpha’ thing turns my stomach anyway so we won’t go there. Does the typical “real” female truly want to be tied up and beaten and humiliated every night before they can get off? I would certainly hope not, or that would be a truly bad sign about where we are going as a society . . .

    Anyway, the following is my rant. Read it or not, respond to it or not, I believe I have some solid points in response to what I believe to be a completely twisted vision of what male/female relationships should be about. And I would greatly hope I am not the only person to think this way, or I am going to be really frustrated with the whole situation!

    A man who graduated high in his class at Yale Law School and made partnership in a top law firm would be celebrated. A man who invested wisely would be admired, but a woman who accomplishes this is treated with suspicion. – Barbara Streisand


    The following is my particular rant, and doesn’t reflect on Gabriel in any way, but to the post by Dota on July 30, 2013 at 4:56 PM. You can scroll down to see the comment.

    This is the post:

    This is indeed a good article and you’ve raised several good points. Porn does destroy self confidence and is ultimately a destructive and self defeating activity.

    I believe (as you do) that most men today view porn because they cannot seem to respect women. While I agree with you that men should ultimately respect women, I do not believe that the modern North American woman makes it easy to respect her. Our grandfathers never objectified women because women back then made excellent mates, nurturing and loyal. Today’s North American/Western European woman is an overgrown child with ADD who is lacking in character, moral fiber, basic etiquette, and over all integrity. Today’s women want to participate in behaviours that were unacceptable 5 decades ago (drinking/smoking/cussing in public) but still want men to respect them in the way our grandfathers respected their women.

    I think the juncture where we disagree is that you believe porn makes men disrespect women, and this is true to some extent. I believe that 5 decades of Feminism has made the modern woman so undesirable, that most men gravitate towards porn as a result.

    But porn is indeed a cancer upon society and one that seems to be winning.


    Hold the phone! Wait just a moment. Back up. You have GOT to be kidding me! What planet do you live on? They must do some really interesting drugs there . . .

    Have you really READ history, or do you live in a la-la land of “Leave It To Beaver”? Where women wore house-dresses and high heels to cook and clean and said “yes dear” and had sex in the missionary position and never, NEVER, EVER had an orgasm? And drank vodka and took pills to dull the pain of being totally, unequivocally unfulfilled? Where women of intelligence and wit, instead of being college educated and reaching their potential, becoming doctors and engineers, became baby factories and domestic slaves? Who turned a blind eye while their husbands screwed their secretaries and had second families on the side while their wives pretended they didn’t know? These same women who, when their husbands died, or left them, were left with children to feed and raise, who had no skills or training to provide the money to do so?

    Is the fact that I gained a Bachelor’s degree and a Masters degree and held down a corporate position reason to not respect me? Or the fact that I made my own money, was respected for my intelligence and contributions to society, to charity and to scholarly works reason to disrespect me as a woman? Maybe it is my love of 20-year-old single malt Highland Scotch and having my needs met in bed? Does that make me undeserving of respect? Or maybe it is the fact that I left a husband who expected the very things you seem to crave in a spouse – total, uncomplaining submission, while he totally controlled my access to money, who wanted to control what I wore, where I went, who I saw and whether or not I had an orgasm, just like his own father did to his mother. Does that make me unworthy of respect, when I went out on my own, got a job, a home, and gained the aforementioned degrees and personal and public respect?

    How much has society lost, treating women like they would their dogs, training them to obey, to snap to commands, to fall within a narrow boundary of acceptable behaviours? What have we lost, decreeing women to be second-class citizens? Cures for cancer, diabetes, heart disease? Answers to world poverty or peace or how we are going to be able to handle overpopulation or addressing our coming energy or pollution problems? Men certainly haven’t done a bang-up job of any of that. Men are seemingly incapable of living beside one another without destroying anyone they find to be different than themselves, or to have something that they want for their own. Wars over oil, religion, land. Cultures where women and children are raped and murdered in response to rape and abuse that was out of their control. Male oriented religions that demean and objectify women, men in dresses, waving texts designed and written by men, that curtail the rights of women over even their own bodies. Societies that allow men to murder their own wives because they were taken by force and raped by a stranger or a neighbor or an “enemy”?

    Wake up and smell the coffee. In your little Leave It To Beaver world, women weren’t “respected”. They were paid less even when their work product was better than a male coworker. They weren’t safe on the streets, and if anything happened to them through no fault of their own they were denied legal recourse. They were abused at home with no recourse to women’s shelters or even the comfort of family members. Their children were abused as well, and all the little perfect people you envision turned a blind eye – including family members and priests. Apparently, your vision of “respect” is putting women in “Their Place” where they bow down to you as a cook, maid, breeder and body slave.

    I am old enough to remember those days, and believe me, they were NOT the gumdrops and kittens you seem to crave. Wake up. I suggest you do a bit of reading of the “non-fantastical” variety. Take a look around you at the women and children who are STILL being mistreated by men who think they own their partners, just like they own their dogs and their pickup trucks. I am willing to give a male just as much respect as he shows himself to be deserving of. I am also willing to make sure that I rip his balls off should he show me disrespect, just as I would expect to be brought to task for not showing respect for any male who showed himself to be deserving of same. The key word here is deserving. You, Dota, are not deserving of my respect, because you do not respect me. And that is the whole point – just because you have dangly junk does NOT automatically make you deserving of respect. A mans mind, heart and actions are what decide their respectability, not their Y-chromosome.

    In the words of Maya Angelou;

    History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again.

    • Dota says:

      Feminists have liberated women to prozac, increased suicide rates, neurosis. Good job. Everyone’s afraid of a strong and independent emotional train wreck.

      • euroglory says:

        Other major social changes have taken place in the same period that has seen ‘prozac, increased suicide rates, neurosis’. Here are some of them:

        1. Decline in neighbourliness, community and face to face socialising. When my grandmother was a child, there were no televisions or computers and therefore much less to do alone inside the house. Because of that, kids always played outside with other kids and adults also socialised with neighbours. Everybody in the street knew each other and those social bonds were much stronger and more developed than now. People lived in a community effectively. They also knew all the individuals who provided the goods and services they used. It was arguably a richer and more fulfilling social life and one probably much more akin to the situation in which humans evolved. These days people have no or a superficial relationship with neighbours, lack community, and spend a significant amount of time in front of a screen. This last fact alone could have a significant impact on mental health. People are over stimulated and under socialised in the traditional Real life sense.

        2. There has been a decline in religion and therefore the sense that life is sacred and has ultimate meaning and value.

        3. A massive increase in consumerism and materialism and we are bombarded with manipulative adverts with their psychological mind games and empty promises.

        4. An increase in individualism and competitiveness.

        5. A culture of hedonism and instant gratification. Admittedly the former can be tied to a decline in marriage and family life.

        6. A significant general increase in the pace of life.

        7. A radical change in parenting styles.

        8. The widespread availability of recreational and proscription drugs (which come with side effects, often including suicidal thoughts.)

        9. Increase in obesity and highly processed foods and junk foods and decrease in exercise.

        10. Increase in exposure to environmental toxins or exposure to different kinds of toxins.

        (I assume that the widespread use of Prozac is largely the result of the medical movement to proscribe it, which is not unrelated to capitalism and drug company efforts to push their product.)

        So, how can you know that the aforementioned increase in mental illness and suicide rates for (both genders) is the result of women’s lib and not more to do with one, some or all of these other changes?

        Also, of course it’s hard to compare something vague like neurosis now and a time when it wouldn’t even have been reported or recorded in the same way. Even suicide stats are not entirely without recording issues.

      • Steven says:

        My grandmother paints a picture of her younger years as a time when there was a lot more community (neighbors, social clubs for adults, church), a lot more sharing, a lot less materialistic competition (keeping up with the Jones’), a lot less value and focus on superficial things like looks and figure (see women’s magazines with their obsession with weight and body image), less worry about things like diet, less traffic and a slower pace of life. No doubt it wasn’t a perfect time and it had its problems but all of the above is true. That’s a huge transformation of society in 70 years.

        There has been this huge erosion of the social fabric of community. One of the noticeable changes in my lifetime (past 30 years) in this city (Liverpool) is the disappearance of pubs and social clubs and churches from the landscape. Now more people than ever stay at home on a Saturday night, with their cheap alcohol and their widescreen tv with 300 channels. Its a lot easier to be isolated today.

        Most of the changes I listed occurred at the same time as women’s lib but are not in any way necessarily linked to it. So you could conceivably have the present situation between men and women and working women while having much stronger communities, some popular form of religion or spirituality (women tend to have higher levels of religiosity than men), no (or less use of) televisions and computers, healthy wholesome diets, the absence of rampant consumerism and advertising, the absence of high value placed on material belongings and acquisition, much less drug use. This is conceivable either in an alternative history where women’s lib happened but not those other changes or in a reformed future.

        The increase in suicide and mental illness could be directly related to feminism, partly because of the changes brought about by feminism or it could have almost nothing to do with it. How would you know?

      • Steven says:

        …its even possible that some of the aspects of feminism (ability to date more freely, more independence, more self-determination, equal rights) have had a positive effect on female wellbeing while others have had a negative effect (near compulsory full time work and the demonisation of the role of housewife) has had a negative impact.

        None of this is simple or obvious and I feel that your degree of confidence in the truth of your chosen explanation is unwarranted. Or maybe you have some special insight I don’t- I’m sure that’s what you think.

    • Bay Area Guy says:

      Speaking very generally, I find that women are spiritually, emotionally, and often physically stronger than men. – Gary Oldman

      You know, it’s funny. You feminists are always espousing gender equality on the one hand, and yet you endorse beliefs that assert the moral superiority of women.

      Equal yet superior, eh?

  20. Wow. Threatened, huh? Just a hint – REAL men aren’t afraid of women, They embrace their strength and glory in the fact that a real woman, not a Barbie Doll, finds them attractive and attentive, an equal. It is a shame you are so weak that you are threatened by women that don’t roll over and pee down their legs when you look at them. That is just really really sad for you. And I find it absolutely hysterical that this is the only thing you can think to say! And yes, women ARE morally superior to “men” who are so emotionally, morally and psychologically weak that the only way they can feel powerful is by searching out and taking advantage of weak women with little self esteem, said weakness forced upon them by antediluvian concepts of religion and morality.

    It is also interesting that, with all of the well researched and knowledgeable information I provided, all you can do is throw yourself on your back and scream “feminist”! That is just pitiable. No, I take that back. That is emotional and psychological retardation on a massive scale. Oh, and just so you know? Gary Oldman is a man – and a real one, at that.

    • Dota says:

      What’s a ”real woman?” Is she one who suffers from penis envy and desires to emulate men in every respect? Is she so paranoid that she is afraid to trust? Is she so self hating that she despises her femininity?

      And besides I’ve yet to meet the ”strong” ”real woman” you keep harping about. As I’ve stated before, most women in the west are obnoxious and their bad behaviour is predicated on the knowledge that they have the nanny state on speed dial. They simply couldn’t pull this shit outside the west.

      The question isn’t whether we are threatened by women, but rather, are you threatened by Masculine men? It appears that you are. Neither me nor BAG have made any allusions about women ”wetting themselves” over us yet you’ve already fantasized about cutting off someone’s balls. You’re the schizo here with the paranoid imagination.

      It is also interesting that, with all of the well researched and knowledgeable information I provided,

      Where? I don’t see it. All I see are a string of disingenuous red herring arguments coupled with irrelevant anecdotes. You’ve attributed some bogus arguments to us and you’ve bashed them. You are essentially talking to yourself. Just a typical solipsistic feminist. All mouth no ears.

      This is what a researched article looks like:

  21. Eren Jäger says:

    Mainstream media and Hollywood is promoting feminism as of late. Specifically radical, enforced, imposed feminism. It’s like every time I watch the news (which is worthless anyways), some angry lady is going on about how her “human rights” have been violated. Every goddamn movie I watch has a female speaking with a superior attitude towards a humble male. I also cannot stand Black Americans being elevated to Obama status in every single movie; White House Down, Iron Man 3, Cloud Atlas, Django Unchained, Lincoln, Oblivion,, etc. It is extremely frustrating as a 13 year old White boy (as White as they come), to be walking around being overwhelmed by the Liberal pro-Black propaganda everywhere I freaking go. Every movie I see. Blacks can say “White people can’t jump” and he is labeled a healthy, promising American citizen, but when a White guy says, “(Pureblood) Blacks can’t pronounce proper English” which is 98.5% true, they are labeled future spree killers and Hitlers. White people can physically jump, but I have never seen a Black guy with 4 Black grandparents who spoke standard English. Some of the mulattoes, quadroons, and a rare few octaroons can pull it off, but the rest cannot. Being White in America feels like someone invaded my home, fucked my mom, killed my dad, and enslaved my siblings. We are letting Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians mass immigrate into our land, fuck our men/women, commit murder against Whites, and tell us what to do by voting. This is White America!

    • Dota says:

      Hollywood and the media whores have always promoted feminism. Every female character you see on screen is a dysfunctional, cold, calculating psycho bitch. I haven’t watched TV is a long time and I’m better of without it.

    • Eren Jäger says:

      Axum, can you give me your email? I would like to debate and discuss with you via email. Also, I have met several mulattoes, and I even admitted in my above post that they can speak English properly. Mulattoes are definetly above pureblood Blacks intellectually, no doubt about that. Pureblood Blacks are more entertaining, however. The average Black American is 17.5% White to begin with, and some Blacks in certain regions may be up to 30% White without even knowing it. And the Whiter they are, the more civilized and pleasant to look at.

      Dota, how do you stand not watching TV? I tried it for a month or so and it didn’t work out for me very well. I don’t like the propaganda very much, but the glory days of White America are long gone. I will admit I limit my own TV time to about 2 hours a day. I listen to Classical Music about 4 hours a day, and I do this in my basement in the dark while laying down on a mattress. This helps to clear my mind and control my OCD, and it is a great alternative to TV. I haven’t listened to any other Music ever since I began Classical, and TV is crap compared to CM. I still do need a few hours of TV however.

    • Dota says:

      Dota, how do you stand not watching TV?

      It’s difficult at first as most ingrained habits are hard to break, that’s how the human minds works, it resists change. But ultimately I began to realize that TV was affecting my mood in a negative way. After completing a movie or a show I felt anger and irritation at the end and not satisfaction. This is why I’ve also quit online games. They bring out too many negative emotions to the surface which are longer lasting than the fleeting amusement they provide. I try to do other stuff in my spare time, writing articles for the site, working out, reading, revising corporate finance ect…

      Btw, studies have shown that classical music does boost concentration. Classical music is an intellectual and spiritual antidote to the noise of modernity.

  22. mixedraced says:

    I remember being attacked in the primary school i attended by a bunch of black males and females because i spoke too white for them and was (and still am) interested in the subjects of history and geography. What a stupid reason to attack someone. Not all mulattoes are either one of the following; a suck up to blacks or a suck up to whites, none of my friends past and present are and i’m definitely not.

    • batterytrain says:

      Black Africans have got to be the most useless and damaging group of people that the human race has ever produced. Words cannot describe just how utterly banal, vile, disruptive, menacing, destructive and corrosive they have been to any civilization that had the misfortune of having to deal with them.

      I want to personally to shoot the short sighted idiot Yankees and the Jewish cabalist slavist banksters that forced African slaves into the America’s in the original thirteen colonies and Jamestown. They have been nothing but trouble to the entire country’s political workings and machinations but they have also brought immense damage and chaos to the public system and held the country’s social service system back for centuries. Not only have they have been bad just by having a pathological presence here in the Western world but their entire ethos, slavery mentality, backwardness, primitiveness, stupidity, general lack of civility and propensity to dis-assimilate from higher societies, and hatred for Western people have served to provide a conduit and platform for non-Western alien people’s to come into North America and into the Western world. The price for slavery was not even worth the bargain and Americans have paid too much in reparations as opposed to whatever benefits they garnered from the actual slaves.

      It’s beneficial for blacks if there are LESS blacks in total in the world population and in the areas where they live because even Black-Americans feel have situations of being relieved when there are FEWER numbers of blacks in the general population of places they live in, they instinctively have admitted this fact on several cases and how they have migrated to places upheld by non-blacks. It seems the eugenicist Margarat Sanger was perfectly honest and practical when it came to dealing with them despite all the idiot accusations she gets from libtards about “Racism”. I cannot wait for the day when I will get to divulge my latent ambition to shoot them when the moment comes.

      As one guy on Robert Lindsay’s blog stated, “Nigger” Americans will be the down fall of america.wake up.this nigger crap is a cancer and needs to be stopped asap.
      the Torah talks about revenge and the bible talks about blessing your enemy’s and god will handle it.i have seen the revenge from god first hand.i can burn the bible and buy another one its not the book its what it says.
      they need a revelation from god to know he exists and they are just going on fanatasism.
      Middle Easterners are just as american as whites,they fought for this country.
      i dont really hate other kinds of people, just their belief system like Jews.
      all my family came here legally since 1640.fought and died as faggots since every war since then.
      asians have to come legally and many others but not mexicans.they are not bad people just desperate.parting word:blacks are the worst.”

      • Eren Jäger says:

        Batterytrain, are you Cyrus? He also mentioned the 1640 thing and his desire to shoot some Blacks.

        Anyways, America really would be better off without Blacks. Unfortunately, from a realistic point of view, this will not happen and Blacks will outbreed us. As they gain voting rights en masse, our own representation in elections and legal issues will decline. White America is royally fucked, and it is our own damn fault for freeing the sub-species called the Black man.

      • Eren Jäger says:

        An ideal America would be one without any Blacks, Asians, or Hispanics, the America of every Stormfronter’s fantasy and wet dreams. I know it will never happen, but just daydreaming about a White America full of little red-headed and green-eyed kiddies running around on safe surburban playgrounds getting boo-boos and playing catch has positive effects on my mood and stress-control skills. To be honest, I don’t even mind Native Americans, they have a lot of White blood to begin with, most of us Whites have NA blood, and NA’s act Whiter than any other group besides actual Whites. Honestly, I wouldn’t mind a White America with about 13% Amerindian population, even more so since they were here before us. If anyone is owed reparations or apologies, it is Native A’s. I don’t care about Blacks, Asians, or Mexcrement. So what about slavery, Hiroshima, Mex-Amer War, etc? Ahhhh…….time to stop fantisizing…..snap back to reality. (Oh, there goes gravity!)

      • batterytrain says:

        I was watching an old pixar movie called “the incredibles” (great movie), and it got me thinking a lot. Its a good movie to watch if you want to know, in an animation medium, how American culture was like in a illustrative idealistic portrayal when European-Americans were the majority in both the cities and suburbs and America for the most part was majority (98-ish?) percent White which would place the setting of that movie around 1920-1940-ish?

        Ironically this Pixar film, intended mostly for kids and young adults, got me hooked into old American movies from the 1920s to 1960’s; movies such as 12 angry men, its a wonderful life, the grapes of wrath, Dr.strangelove, rear window, etc etc as it depicts an America that was more socially oriented and close. Seeing those movies and the world that it shows illustrates an America where men had much more class, style, fortitude, alphaness, assertiveness, manners, respect, intelligence, wisdom and dignity while the same could be said for the women whom also had feminine qualities. It’s amazing how that has changed now and how far off America now is from those movies.

      • Dota says:

        North America has lost its Christian moral center. Ralph Dumain is essentially correct when he says that the South Asian philosophies have moved into the space formerly occupied by Christianity because:

        “The impersonal, mechanistic, and amoral aspects of these world views, with a good percentage of their original mythic, superstitious, and social content conveniently downplayed or metaphoricized into oblivion, could readily be contoured to the discontents of a modern, mechanistic, depersonalized society disillusioned with conventional moralism, legalism, and deliberative rationality.”

        Seeing those movies and the world that it shows illustrates an America where men had much more class, style, fortitude, alphaness, assertiveness, manners, respect, intelligence, wisdom and dignity while the same could be said for the women whom also had feminine qualities.

        That’s the point I was trying to explain to that feminist up there before she flew of the handle. That modern women find abhorrent the very notion that masculinity and chivalry ought be reciprocated by feminine qualities indicates just how morally retarded they have become as a group. Feminism has convinced women that they should seek entitlement without corresponding obligations. It’s no wonder the average white woman appears so infantile when compared to her foreign counterparts outside the west.

      • Bay Area Guy says:

        That modern women find abhorrent the very notion that masculinity and chivalry ought be reciprocated by feminine qualities indicates just how morally retarded they have become as a group.

        Indeed. In fact, when men expect a little reciprocation in exchange for being chivalrous or fulfilling masculine duties, they call those men “entitled.”

        Of course, the irony of them expecting masculine duties from men is lost on them.

  23. RunswithScissors says:

    “Of course, the irony of them expecting masculine duties from men is lost on them.”

    Indeed. It’s been my experience that Western White women complain that men don’t act confident enough, chivalrous enough, or approach them enough.

    Ha. You do those things and you risk being labelled a creep, aggressive or at the very least outmoded.

    Men are penalized for acting masculine — especially with female bosses who often interpret such behavior as an attempt to dominate them — and then you get crap for not acting “manly” enough.

    So guys refrain from acting that way. Funny how that works eh?

    Obviously this leads to much sexual and romantic frustration on both sides. Nature is being contorted to the solipsistic, anti-empiricial and practically ficticious theories of Critical Theorists and Gender Feminists or — a rose by any other name — histrionic narcissists.

    Just look at that crazy feminist that waltzed on to this point and begin attacking Dota’s article, attacking points that HE DIDN’T EVEN MAKE because for these people, it takes years and years of schooling to learn how to argue with a strawman.

    These people are mentally ill and they are taken seriously by society. Somethings got to give.

  24. Eren Jäger says:

    Hello everyone, I have a new blog up called Coward’s Blog, you can follow the link on my name or go to and comment. The blog is about Classical Music, and really just a chill place. Also, if anyone wishes to contact me, you can reach me at

  25. Eren Jäger says:

    New avatar-reconstruction of King Tut’s skull, which shows his obvious Caucasoid heirtage.

  26. Dota says:

    Bag will have to look into it since i’m at work and can’t deal with it right now.

    • Bay Area Guy says:

      “New Axum” is a sockpuppet of Alice. She/he/it will in all likelihood be subjected to a ban soon.

    • Alice says:

      Please don’t ban me! 😦 anyways Axum agreed to not delete his comments to me, he finally understand me, plus as a Psychologist i used a psychology trick, but also for Axum’s sake, to let him see why he is afraid of the world, anyways you made that rule just this day, so i didn’t break any rule.

    • Bay Area Guy says:

      You won’t be banned yet. Any ban has to be discussed by Dota and myself, and then we will reach a decision.

      So long as you refrain from sockpuppets/impersonations in the future and don’t cause this type of confusion again, then I see no reason to ban you.

    • Dota says:


      You’ve been impersonating Axum and Xera. That sort of behavior is disruptive and will be subject to bans in the future. We’ll let you of with a warning this time so please refrain from such behavior in the future.

  27. Bay Area Guy says:

    Due to this recent controversy, I’ve added a new rule to the comments policy: no sockpuppets. If you have a name, stick with it.

  28. Alice says:

    Thank you, Axum ,you really are a Gentleman, i send you kisses and hugs, you need to respect a woman’s decisión.

  29. Alice says:

    I don’t know who Xera is, and that behaviour won’t happen in the future 😉 but as a Psychologist i was really worried about Axum (and yes, my own interest to preserve his replies to me in order that i wouldn’t look crazy and stupid talking alone) so i wanted to discover the fears of Axum, it would have been nice if Axum would open enough, inspired by a strong “New Axum” (me) and motivated to lose his fears, but it can’t be helped.

    • Eren Jäger says:

      Alice you are a psycho b@#ch. You are the type of girl to trash an ex-boyfriend’s house after a break up or suck your stepson’s dick while Daddy’s at work. I know this lady who lives in my neighborhood that killed her husband’s goldfish and took a crap on his laptop after he was caught cheating. Jeez, a man’s retaliation is with violence, but a woman goes out of her way to do something. The craziest thing a jealous husband will do is break the wife’s car, but the craziest wife might get pregnant with the husband’s worst enemy’s child and pass it off as the husband’s.

    • Alice says:

      Maybe you are right, these things speak bad of me as a Psychologist… to go as far as calling psycho bitch a Psychologist.

    • Eren Jäger says:

      But certain psycho bitch personalities are more stimulating and can help form better psychologist-patient relationships.

  30. Eren Jäger says:

    Hello everybody, 3 new posts up on my site;

    Please comment. It is NOT about Classical Music. I decided all you rap fans who love M AND M as well as Drake do not give two flying shits about Mozart. So off wkth that and on with some racial slurs and satires and basically imitating Robert Lindsay’s style. My goal is to get 1 more fucking commentor, so please help me out and comment! Remember, school just statred for me, so I do not have unlimited time, but I still write for YOUR entertainment. So Alice, Xera, Axum boy, WMarkW, Robert Lindsay, Dota, BAG, Miki, Sandy, head on over. I am the teenage Robert Lindsay!

  31. Eren Jäger says:

    Question for all Hindutva trolls, pro-Indian Nationalists, banned commentors of Robert Lindsay lurking on this blog;

    If there was no Aryan Invasion, why the need for caste?

    If you support caste, aren’t you saying you are superior Aryans, and thereby supporting AIT?

    If Aryan Invasion never happened, how did Sanskrit go into India?

    If you guys quit practicing caste, I’ll quit saying AIT is true. Deal?

  32. Eren Jäger says:

    My magnum opus as of thus far;

    Remember, COMMENT fols, I have severe commentor deficiency syndrome, I appreciate all the commentors I get, like Dota.

  33. mixedraced says:

    There was no eastward migration of caucasians to Shang or Warring states China or Qin China. All caucasians were pushed to lands beyond the Himalayas and the tarim basin by the time the Qin had firmly established themselves. The (mongoloid) Xiongnu kept the whites on the defensive for most of China’s early phase. After the Han finally defeated the Xiongnu they then pushed westwards forcing the remnant caucasians out of what is now modern China’s far western province.

    • Eren Jäger says:

      No, the Xiongu had slight Caucasoid admixture, based on skull reconstructions. The Zhou were a Central Asian mixed race tribe.

      • mixedraced says:

        Very slight because they took many white females (possibly) from the lands they conquered as partners. Prove that the Zhou were caucasian here and now. All things relating to them show they were a Chinese dynasty. And this time don’t link to portraits from video games.

      • Eren Jäger says:

        No, it was White male. Most Xiongnu White admixture is Y-DNA and no mtDNA. The clades R1a and R1b, and it was in almost all analyzed male remains, so the Xiongnu were probably 60% Mongoloid 40% Caucasoid or something on those lines. Besides, even slight admixture is pretty significant. The Mongols are 14% Caucasoid,bwhich means they have about 2500-2900 Caucasoid genes, more than enough to affect behaviour and brain function. Just like how you see quadroons and 10%er octaroons sometimes retaining the criminality of their Black progenitor.

        Of course they were a Chinese Dynasty, but some Chinese Dynasties had White admixture. The Zhou were a Central Asian nomadic group, so that settles it; they were not pure Mongoloid but biracial. Besides, the Shang spoke of the Zhou as a hairy and white-skinned people with great stature. Just like how Genghis’ red hair didn’t mutate on its own from Mongoloids. Ironic that they call Sinadontic Asians “Mongoloids” when Mongoloids are part White. They should call them Sinodroids, Hanoids, Yayoids, or Koreanoids.

      • mixedraced says:

        That is wrong. They were only 10% genetically caucasian and most of their male DNA is related to other East Asian and Native American peoples. Their genetic make up is similar to the modern mongols.

      • Eren Jäger says:

        Aww fuck it, who the fuck even cares about the Mongols anyways? Besides, the bulk of the “Mongol Army” werent Mongolians, they were Uighurs, Bochars, Steppes Central Asians, and Genghis himself was a red haired guy from Western Mongolia. Western Mongolians are Whiter than Mongols as a whole, Western Mongols are 33.5% White. The bulk of the Golden Hordes were mixed race Central Asians and DNA testing shows that they were mostly R1a, J, and I1. No O2a, O2b, or O2c, a little C3, but C3 is both Caucasoid and Mongoloid. There was more D2 than O2 in the Mongol army, and Mongols were successful due to White genes. Why hasn’t any 100.00% Asian Mongoloid person ever accomplished greatness? Why is there always a bit of White in Chinese Emperors, even though the people they ruled were 100.0% pure Mongoloids? Why why why? Isn’t there something going on here?

      • Alice says:

        Eren you are quite crazy, that’s it, as a Psychologist i can tell it, Axum is right

      • Eren Jäger says:

        I only speak the truth. You can’t call me crazy because I speak the truth, you are committing a logical fallacy; ad hominem: attacking the person instead of the argument. I doubt you are a psychologist, in fact, you, ale, miki, Narut00, etc., all live in Mexico City and have eerily similar modus operandis, so probably the same person/dude/she/it/spic-whatever the hell you are. Face it, without White genes in the Mongol Army, they would have been just another race of male pussies with small dicks, no body hair, short stature, crooked teeth, slanted eyes, skinny, anorexic, super fetal neotenic chinks. I am sorry but there is DNA evidence that Mongols have White admixture, and Persian historian Rashid Al-Din said Genghis had red hair. End of story, Mongols were successful due to White admixture. Do you think the Koreans or Han Chinese could have ravaged Russia? LOL. Where is my Lord and God Xera when you need him.

      • Alice says:

        If you think so many people are the same person, you are really paranoid, you have serious problems, i could show you my license of Psychologist ,listen to the advice of the expert, i am Psychologist and you really need help. I had success with Axum, he wanted to disappear from the internet, but the trick i did as “New Axum” motivated him to not fear and hide from the internet.

      • Alice says:

        The Amerindian Mapuche resisted their fellow Amerindian Incas and the Caucasian Spanish:
        The Mapuche successfully resisted many attempts by the Inca Empire to subjugate them, despite their lack of state organization. They fought against the Sapa Inca, Tupac Yupanqui, and his army. Although the Spanish subjugated the Picunche in the Conquest of Chile, the Moluche of the area which the Spanish called Araucanía fought against the invaders for over 300 years. The Mapuche repelled the Spanish after their initial conquests in the late 16th century so effectively that there were areas to which Europeans did not return until late in the 19th century.

      • Eren Jäger says:

        Sorry Alice, wasn’t in my right mind yesterday. OCD stress broke down my logical thinking.

      • Eren Jäger says:

        In other words; the Spanish sent about 5 crappy malnourished scurvied conquistadors on starved half dead horses and 3 reload ammo against a tribe of 4,000-5,000 Mapuche warriors in their prime and well fed who knew the area well, and could maneuver better, and the 4,000 Mapuche barely kept off 5 White guys with crappy muskets, and this is an achievement how?

      • Eren Jäger says:

        Hey Alice, can I have your email so I can stalk y……err…(cough cough) I mean talk to you?

      • ProudFeministGirl says:

        What language is worth it to learn? Russian? French? Portuguese? etc? i dunno : /

  34. mixedraced says:

    Eren, i’d comment on your blog for a more fluid debate but i don’t like the design choices.

    • mixedraced says:

      It wasn’t until the late 1800’s- early 1900’s that the countries which emerged after anti-spanish wars of independence finally conquered the patagonian region.

      • Eren Jäger says:

        Yeah, but a lot of these countries were mestizo, not 100.0% Native American. They were about 50-60% pureblood White, and the remaining 40% of the populations in South America were mostly mestizos, but around 10% or so were Amerindian, and they weren’t even participants in the war. Besides, the colonial powers Spain and Portugal didn’t even have the bulk of their armies there, maybe less than a tenth, the French, British, and Spanish were preparing for war with each other and Austria-Hungary, and somewhat with the Ottoman Empire. So ultimately the reality correct, politically incorrect truth does not attest to the valor of the Red Man.

      • Eren Jäger says:

        Very few Native Americans in the North American region actually died from smallpox. The 95% of Natives genocided by smallpox is as fake as the gas chambers of Auschwitz. No gas residue has been found in the gas shower rooms of Auschwitz, and similarly no real evidence is there for the Native downfall via smallpox. The non PC reality is that 100 million Native Americans got their asses kicked by a White army less than 0.3% of their population, and now it hurts the pride of the warlike Natives, so they go up making up some B.S. smallpox story.

      • miki says:

        Peru or Ecuador are almost pure Amerindian, fery few Spanish admixture: Peruvian genetic admixture consists in a 73% Amerindian, 15% European ancestry and Ecuadorian genetic admixture consists in a 64% Amerindian, 31% European ancestry; Typical Peruvian woman=

      • Eren Jäger says:

        Over time, the people of Latin America got more Native than White; Whites had less and less children, while Natives had lots of children; preferrably daughters, to marry them to rich mestizo and secure financial sources for their family, and sons to tend crops and provide manpower for work. So Although Latin America was predominantly White back then, it has become browner.

      • Eren Jäger says:

        Miki, what kind of Mexican are you? White, mestizo, Indian? Also, are you hot?

      • mixedraced says:

        Argentina and Chile are genetically white majority populations. What you said makes no sense. They are the only two countries in the Patagonian/Araunacanian region and they emerged after the Bolivarian independence movements.

      • Eren Jäger says:

        Axum my nigga I just changed the design layout of my blog. Come to it and see if its good and also comment mothafuckasss!!!!!!!!!?!!

      • ProudFeministGirl says:

        I already know Spanish as native language and English as second language. No se que mas aprender, quiero aprender un idioma nuevo, pero no se cual vale el esfuerzo : /

  35. Bay Area Guy says:

    You might find this interesting, Dota.

    You might have been onto something when you said something to the effect that desis in America are no longer content to be the model minority, and are starting to flex their muscles.

  36. Beatrix says:

    Dota & BAG-
    I’m a member of the ‘Marginal Mennonites’ & found this link posted on their blog in regards to the kookiness going on in the US right now-
    “The theology of government shutdown: Christian dominionism”
    Curious to know what you think.

    • Dota says:

      As I’ve stated before, I don’t care much for the Christian right. They often state the obvious like this Cruz guy does but still bow before a very Jewish reading of their scriptures. Plus I’m not really in Dominion theology anyway for I believe that the west needs to be Christian in character and spirit, but not in government. This means that Christianity should influence our music, literature, and art; but pastors shouldn’t be writing our laws.

      Also the writer makes a huge assumption that the son follows his dad’s theology and then builds another assumption upon it stating that these inherited views are the cause of this fiasco. Occam said that one must not multiply guesses without sufficient evidence.

    • Beatrix says:

      An excerpt from Ted Cruz’s ‘talkathon’-
      “What we have here is our core values as Americans and Christians slipping away into this facade where we should take care of our poor, sick, and disabled,” said Cruz in hour 19 of his filibuster. “It is disheartening to know that the nation our forefathers built is no longer of importance to our president and his Democratic counterparts. Not only that, we are falling away from core Christian values. I don’t know about you, but I believe in the Jesus who died to save himself, not enable lazy followers to be dependent on him. He didn’t walk around all willy nilly just passing out free healthcare to those who were sick, or food to those who were hungry, or clothes to those in need. No, he said get up, brush yourself off, go into town and get a job, and as he hung on the cross he said,”I died so that I may live in eternity with my Father. If you want to join us you can die for yourself and your own sins. What do I look like, your savior or something?” That’s the Jesus I want to see brought back into our core values as a nation. That’s why we need to repeal Obamacare.”

      Eh, I don’t know if this qualifies as ‘Dominion theology’ or just outright asininity.
      Jesus died to save himself?
      Never heard that before. In fact, I would have thought most US Christians of all denominations to find Cruz’s dubious attributions to Jesus rather offensive.
      Ted certainly seems to echo the sentiments of his dad given this statement.
      Unfortunately on my last visit to the US last year I found this sort of thinking to be quite common – but then again I was in the Atlanta area for most of the time.

      • Adal says:

        How about a post about the difficulties of mixed race individuals? I’ve lived through such difficulties throughout my life from whites and blacks because of my racial ambiguity. I agree with those who say racw mixing is bad, espcially for the mixed individual. What’s it like for mixed people in the Bay Area? You (BAG) were discussing the racial dynamics there but only mentioned briefly mixed-type people.

      • coward says:

        hi axum

  37. Beatrix says:

    I’m listening to VOA here in Nepal for my daily dose of capitalist propaganda & of course it’s JFK DAY!!!
    I completely forgot his fantastic inaugural address on January 20, 1961 we studied in high school speech class –

    Vice President Johnson, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Chief Justice, President Eisenhower, Vice President Nixon, President Truman, reverend clergy, fellow citizens:

    We observe today not a victory of party, but a celebration of freedom — symbolizing an end, as well as a beginning — signifying renewal, as well as change. For I have sworn before you and Almighty God the same solemn oath our forebears prescribed nearly a century and three-quarters ago.

    The world is very different now. For man holds in his mortal hands the power to abolish all forms of human poverty and all forms of human life. And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe — the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.

    We dare not forget today that we are the heirs of that first revolution. Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans — born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage, and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today at home and around the world.

    Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

    This much we pledge — and more.

    To those old allies whose cultural and spiritual origins we share, we pledge the loyalty of faithful friends. United there is little we cannot do in a host of cooperative ventures. Divided there is little we can do — for we dare not meet a powerful challenge at odds and split asunder.
    To those new states whom we welcome to the ranks of the free, we pledge our word that one form of colonial control shall not have passed away merely to be replaced by a far more iron tyranny. We shall not always expect to find them supporting our view. But we shall always hope to find them strongly supporting their own freedom — and to remember that, in the past, those who foolishly sought power by riding the back of the tiger ended up inside.

    To those people in the huts and villages of half the globe struggling to break the bonds of mass misery, we pledge our best efforts to help them help themselves, for whatever period is required — not because the Communists may be doing it, not because we seek their votes, but because it is right. If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.

    To our sister republics south of our border, we offer a special pledge: to convert our good words into good deeds, in a new alliance for progress, to assist free men and free governments in casting off the chains of poverty. But this peaceful revolution of hope cannot become the prey of hostile powers. Let all our neighbors know that we shall join with them to oppose aggression or subversion anywhere in the Americas. And let every other power know that this hemisphere intends to remain the master of its own house.

    To that world assembly of sovereign states, the United Nations, our last best hope in an age where the instruments of war have far outpaced the instruments of peace, we renew our pledge of support — to prevent it from becoming merely a forum for invective, to strengthen its shield of the new and the weak, and to enlarge the area in which its writ may run.

    Finally, to those nations who would make themselves our adversary, we offer not a pledge but a request: that both sides begin anew the quest for peace, before the dark powers of destruction unleashed by science engulf all humanity in planned or accidental self-destruction.

    We dare not tempt them with weakness. For only when our arms are sufficient beyond doubt can we be certain beyond doubt that they will never be employed.

    But neither can two great and powerful groups of nations take comfort from our present course — both sides overburdened by the cost of modern weapons, both rightly alarmed by the steady spread of the deadly atom, yet both racing to alter that uncertain balance of terror that stays the hand of mankind’s final war.
    So let us begin anew — remembering on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness, and sincerity is always subject to proof. Let us never negotiate out of fear, but let us never fear to negotiate.

    Let both sides explore what problems unite us instead of belaboring those problems which divide us.

    Let both sides, for the first time, formulate serious and precise proposals for the inspection and control of arms, and bring the absolute power to destroy other nations under the absolute control of all nations.

    Let both sides seek to invoke the wonders of science instead of its terrors. Together let us explore the stars, conquer the deserts, eradicate disease, tap the ocean depths, and encourage the arts and commerce.

    Let both sides unite to heed, in all corners of the earth, the command of Isaiah — to “undo the heavy burdens, and [to] let the oppressed go free.”¹

    And, if a beachhead of cooperation may push back the jungle of suspicion, let both sides join in creating a new endeavor — not a new balance of power, but a new world of law — where the strong are just, and the weak secure, and the peace preserved.

    All this will not be finished in the first one hundred days. Nor will it be finished in the first one thousand days; nor in the life of this Administration; nor even perhaps in our lifetime on this planet. But let us begin.

    In your hands, my fellow citizens, more than mine, will rest the final success or failure of our course. Since this country was founded, each generation of Americans has been summoned to give testimony to its national loyalty. The graves of young Americans who answered the call to service surround the globe.

    Now the trumpet summons us again — not as a call to bear arms, though arms we need — not as a call to battle, though embattled we are — but a call to bear the burden of a long twilight struggle, year in and year out, “rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation,”² a struggle against the common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease, and war itself.

    Can we forge against these enemies a grand and global alliance, North and South, East and West, that can assure a more fruitful life for all mankind? Will you join in that historic effort?
    In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility — I welcome it. I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other people or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavor will light our country and all who serve it. And the glow from that fire can truly light the world.

    And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.

    My fellow citizens of the world, ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.

    Finally, whether you are citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us here the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you. With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth God’s work must truly be our own.
    And then came the Bay of Pigs, PFFFFT!

  38. coward says:

    HOLY FUCKING DOGSHIT I HATE CHINKS. Today I went with my mom to buy a Christmas tree and I saw an ugly, disgusting, hideous Asian with slanted eyes and flat face eyeing the same tree I was. I had to run over there and shove him and he had the nerve to FUCKING YELL AT ME. HEY YOU DIRTY CHINK I AM A SUPERIOR WHITE KID. PLEASE GO FUCK YOURSELF. I may have given up on White Nationalism but I will NEVER EVER EVER give up on getting chinks out of America. Blacks at least have narrow faces and jaws and a 17% White admixture. I swear to God if my mom wasnt there I would have fucking pulled out my pocket knife and stabbed that worthless chink to death until his fucking head rolled off, and then cut off his 1 inch dick and fed it to a dog. I fucking HATE chinks. I hope they all get nuked or something.

    • Coward i am really worried about all the hate in your heart, is not healthy, i said that i am Cultural Hindu, however i will experiment with religions, and try to see if praying Works, i will pray to Lord Ganesha for you.

      • coward says:

        There is a God, but he is cruel. The cruelest of all some might say. God is a sick sick bastard. One day im gonna find him and fuck him in the asshole.

      • narut00 says:

        Wow Coward, i will also pray to Lord Ganesha for you, one prayer more for you, it may work better now.

      • braveagnosticg says:

        Everyone help with the views of this Japanese song of Girls Generation 🙂 to become the most watched Japanese song, second place behind the AKB48 which I don’t like much, they are kind of embarrasing for mainstream audiences, help the Sones

  39. coward says:

    I lost my virginity today

  40. Coward says:

    By the way if you want to know the true meaning behind my name;
    “Osama’s llama dune and sauna,
    You’re a puma I’m a human,
    But I kind of do to flew straight into a superhuman,
    In this hatred and I hate this lover so in the things you pray its flicking hatred on these and it will shoot right left flew,”
    I bet only 1 out of every 6 of you reading this will be able to know what I mean.

  41. Bay Area Guy says:

    Yet another white “man” to place in our wimpy whites hall of shame! I don’t know whether to laugh or feel disgusted.

  42. Hi there Bay Area Guy (and Dota, *wave*), I heard your interview with Robert Stark today and enjoyed it thoroughly, even though Robert likes to interrupt a little too much 🙂 When you spoke on race realism, the left’s critique of it, and “social constructs”, I wanted to yell out “Their precious concept of equality is a social construct!” I agree, social constructs can be either good or bad, but that the baby shouldn’t be thrown out with the bath water when it comes to them. Anyhow, I don’t think I’m saying anything here that you don’t already know. Great interview. Cheers.

  43. Steven says:

    Statement on Feminism.

    I agree with you that gender differences are not purely the result of environment and socialization.

    Its quite obvious that men and women differ for biological reasons, even if only for hormonal reasons (although I suspect there are other genetics at play too).

    If a man increases his testosterone, he becomes more aggressive, horny, competitive etc. He experiences psychological as well as physical transformations like gaining muscle more easily. Broadly the same physical and psychological happen to females who take testosterone- they become more like men. The same applies to female sex hormones- men who take them become start to develop secondary sexual characteristics of females and may become more emotional.

    Its basically blatantly fucking obvious that gender specific sex hormones act upon the brain and emotions as well as the body.

    If you ONLY take into account hormones, you would expect men and women to be quite different on average in personality, including in their dispositions and inclinations. Although, as I said, I suspect it goes even beyond just hormones.

    One of the reasons I am not too concerned by so called gender neutral upbringings is that they will only work if the underlying social construction theory is true. If male female differences really are biologically deep, then they should emerge by themselves in a gender neutral environment.

    The reason I want this to come to light is that I am somewhat irritated by feminists blaming all inequality on patriarchy and discrimination, I would like to see a mainstream acceptance of reality for its own sake as well as so we can all chill out about men and women making different choices or taking different roles. As long as we provide equality of opportunity, we do not have to engineer or obsess about equality of outcome. I would also like the roll of full time mother for infants to be back on the table as a respectable option (although, to be fair, many women probably work when their children are young out of economic necessity rather than ideology.)

    Women clearly excel in sensitivity to the young and in softness and tenderness. Testosterone makes the body harder and estrogen makes the body softer- I think that may be a good metaphor for the emotional effects too. There is a relative emotional hardening or softening. We have evolved to suit our gendered roles.

    However, I don’t think its true that in hunter gatherer tribes: a) women had no work outside of child care and food preparation. I saw a programme on one African tribe and the men did the hunting while the women did the gathering. This could correspond to male and female dominated professions in the modern economy- there must be a dearth of women in professions based on physical strength. Or b) women had no role in decision making. Nobody really knows how a prehistoric tribe were structured or how decisions were made but in the aforementioned tribe, decisions were made in quite a democratic fashion, involving the men and women.

    We can’t conclude that it is natural for men to make all the major decisions, as I think Dota advocates. Clearly women want influence, often exert significant influence in reality even in traditional societies (traditional Greek joke: the man is the head of the family; the woman is the neck- she can move the head any way she wants), have their own feelings and wishes that need to be represented and respected, often are more focused on the welfare of the children. By my reckoning, it is only humane and fair for the female to have an equal say in major life decisions. Taking that away from women IS oppressive in my view. This is why I find Dota’s anti-feminism too extreme.

    The most egregious aspect of feminism in my view is the insistence on ‘a woman’s right to choose’ ie the legality and moral acceptability of abortion.

    • Steven says:

      Of course one tribe is not necessarily the universal rule or trend.

      Writing this has made me wonder how involved females were in decision making and how leadership worked in hunter gatherer tribes and in prehistory….obviously we can’t know too much about prehistoric social groups but there must be studies or a survey of the degree of patriarchy in known, documented tribes. This would be interesting, wouldn’t it? I must research this.

    • Dota says:

      I think that Feminism and Liberal lunacy have an upkeep. You see it in the constant barrage of “girl power” and “strong and independent woman” tropes that society is subjected to everyday. If this upkeep were removed, society would revert back to traditional gender roles in just a matter of decades. The problem here is that feminism doesn’t really give women a fair choice. Feminine instincts are berated and brutally attacked by feminist retards which goes to show you that it’s the feminists that are loathe to give women real choice. Not all women are meant to be mothers but in a traditional society very few would choose perpetual spinsterhood. Those that choose to walk that path should be allowed to do so because they would always be the minority anyway.

      • Steven says:

        Most women right now still choose motherhood. The issue for me is whether they return to work a short time after giving birth or whether they look after their children until they go to school/kindergarten (at least).

      • quietdove says:

        You know, I’m a woman and I never once chose perpetual spinsterhood. Do you think I enjoy feeling like no one loves me? (The reason why I’ll probably always be single, by the way, is because I have severe social anxiety, and thus, cannot handle the socializing involved in a healthy relationship.) Yet the idea that I could think of myself as a “strong independent woman” instead of wallowing in despair over the fact that I will probably always be single seems like the best idea, doesn’t it? Or do you just not care about people like me?

  44. RD Sultan says:

    Dota: Did you watch the Modi at MSG gig yesterday? Nothing more than a bunch of far-right NRI’s exalting in a collective sigh of orgasmic delight at the sight of the “great leader.”

    It’ll be interesting to see how many NRI’s follow him back to India and live in the “utopia” he is presiding over.

    • Dota says:

      I read about it today on the BBC. Americans need to ask why their ‘fellow Americans’ are going nuts over a foreign leader that does not affect them in their daily lives here in the US.

      • RD Sultan says:

        The Modi phenomenon really has all the classic hallmarks of fascism: personality cult around a charismatic leader; merging of corporate and government interests; aggressive nationalism; militant party wings and youth brigades; scapegoating of minorities. I’ve seen this movie before and it doesn’t end well.

  45. Well there is no doubt you have the coolest name among all Western oriented bloggers. I first became aware of you site via pod casts on Counter Currents. I hope to be a more frequently visitor as I have added this to my bookmark list.

  46. RD Sultan says:

    Hi Dota,

    What’s your opinion of Aakar Patel and PM Modi? The Hindutvadis troll Patel’s articles, so I guess he is doing something right.

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