Wimpy whites

The wimpy whites are ubiquitous. In our rapidly decaying, anti-Christian, consumerist, and post modernist cultures there is simply no escaping them. It bothers us deeply that most wimpy whites are also males. So where do they come from? But more importantly, are you one of them? Find out by answering either true or false to the questions posted below.

(Click here for the updated test)

1. I prefer the great spirit, Buddhism, Hinduism and eastern spirituality to the Lord Jesus Christ: (T/F)

Most wimpy whites prefer the solipsistic and amoral spiritual systems of the orient to the supremely ethical teachings of Christ. When asked to produce something from these exotic traditions that even remotely compare to the ethical teachings of Matthew’s sermon on the mount, they go on a screed about slavery, genocide, and evil mighty whitey.

2. Trees are meant to be lived in and not cut down: (T/F)

While we do not like environmental degradation, the vanishing amazon, or Japan’s over-whaling, we do not think that Humans are blight upon the Earth. We are God’s chosen creation, and being a sentient species we occasionally engage Mother Nature in a game of tug o war. This means that we have to compromise with the old girl. Sometimes she cedes some turf to us, and sometimes we to her. We are not stewards of the Earth, we own this damn planet. It’s ours.

3. The world would be a better place if women ruled it:(T/F)

No it wouldn’t actually. While some women make good entrepreneurs and CEOs, even fewer are suited for the highest offices of our nations. Women and power simply don’t mix. Men have always served as the architects of civilization for they have always been adept at articulating the factual beliefs that underpin our moral structures. Superior civilizations postulated factual beliefs that are universal in nature. The only notable contribution that western women have made to our culture in recent decades is feminism; which aims to further women’s interests over men and is not universal in scope.

4. I think diversity is great as diversity of races equals diversity of perspectives and thought:(T/F)

Of all the unfounded myths this one is surely up there with geocentrism and the earth being supported on a column of tortoises. The simple fact is that homogeneity trumps diversity every single time. It is hard to synergize with people who have no access to your values. When John Stuart Mill famously wrote about diversity in his essay on Liberty, he was referring to diversity of thought, not ethnicity. Non white immigrants need to assimilate into western culture before synergy can occur.

If you’re a non assimilated non white person reading this, remember, if I can do it so can you! Meditate on oneness with whitey today!

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50 Responses to Wimpy whites

  1. Sandy says:

    “solipsistic and amoral spiritual systems ” Could you elaborate more on Buddhism? I am perfectly aware about Hinduism and its Caste System and flawed morality, and Islam and its extreme intolerance, but I never read previously a big flaw on Buddhism, whats wrong with it.

    • Sandy says:

      Lol I clearly see a christian agenda here. I wondered what excuse i will encounter, but i didn’t see any, anyways is true Hinduism and Islam are amoral, but you did a mistake with Buddhism, but at least my post corrected it 😉 ;no wimpy whites, at least Buddhism is pretty decent.

    • Dota says:

      Islam’s intolerance largely depended on who was in power. Certain rulers were douches while some were remarkably tolerant.

      but I never read previously a big flaw on Buddhism, whats wrong with it.

      Buddhism is to Hinduism as what Christianity is to Judaism. Both the daughter religions take the few redeeming qualities from their parent religions while discarding the overwhelming filth. However it’s quite amusing when Hindus try and piggyback of Buddhism’s merits in the same way as Jews spread the bogus myth of the “Judeo” Christian civilization. This suggests to me that both Hindus and Jews are subconsciously aware of how appalling their own traditions are, but I digress.

      But back to Buddhism. While its far superior to Hinduism, its still fairly solipsistic. It’s focus is to escape suffering and enlightenment is pursued through introverted channels. It’s essentially an escapist religion, like its parent. It just improves upon Hinduism’s garbage set of ethics by adding rationality and application conditions to moral propositions.

      • Sandy says:

        oh you just replied at the same time i did. ok

      • Aakash says:

        Dota (and Bay Area Guy)

        Congratulations on the new blog. It is an excellent start and there are lots of interesting opinions from you guys here. Reading this post I remember us having a long conversation about the Gita and morality in Robert L’s blog sometime last year. I’ll come to it soon.

        Firstly, could you elaborate on the ways Hindus piggyback on Buddhism’s merits? I don’t know anyone that does that. If anything, the only thing Hindus usually harp on is about India(if you could call it back then) being the birthplace of Buddhism. I guess thats consistent with the tolerant image of India that they want to project.

        As for Hinduism’s “Garbage Set of Ethics”, the problem is that even you don’t understand clearly where to draw a consistent set of ethics from. Hinduism in any form whether it be Vaishnavism, Shaivism, Vedantic, Dualist, or Hare Krishna monotheistic was never developed with ethics in mind. Even within a family of, say Kshatriyas, you’ll probably see different sets of rules (or lack of) or ethics followed by different people. So, while there are prominent traits such as caste (or jat/jathi/tribe), ultimately, it is a free for all, chaotic religion from which you can spin out any interpretation: positive or negative.

        Unlike the devious Abrahamic religions such as Christianity and Islam, Hinduism doesn’t pretend to be something that it is not: universally and eternally applicable just to gain some new weak minded idiot followers. Sure some parts of those religions may be. But then so is large parts of the Gita. And even more so as Hinduism deals with the concept of time and space better than any other religion.

        Hinduism is anything but escapist by the way. While liberation is the goal, the path to liberation is through action via developing god consciousness. There is an excellent chapter in the Gita (chapter 5) about Karma Yoga if you would like to read about it. Essentially it tells about how work in devotion is better than renouncing your responsibilities. Interpret “work in devotion” any way you like. The local Hare Krishnas on Ponce De Leon interpret that as free food (with no spice as caucasians don’t handle it too well).

        Look forward to read more interesting opinions here.

      • Dota says:

        Welcome to the site Aakash

        It’s funny, I was just thinking about you the other day wondering if you would show up. But you would make an excellent addition to the blog so make yourself at home.

        Firstly, could you elaborate on the ways Hindus piggyback on Buddhism’s merits? I don’t know anyone that does that.

        I suspect most Hindus don’t consciously realize they are doing this, but you will often hear people say that Hindu influence is the cause for Buddhism’s ethical treatment of animals (as an example). This is not entirely true actually, as India’s vegetarian influence is mostly Buddhist and Jain. Ashok set up hospitals for animals after converting to Buddhism. The Vedas were pretty big on animal sacrifice, and the Brahmins were the ones that conducted these sacrifices, as narrated in secular literature like the Panchatantra.

        Compare Mımamsa and the Buddhists on the principle of ‘non-violence’(
        ahim˙sa). For Kumarila the truth of ahimsa did not depend on rational justification or social acceptance but solely on the authority of the Veda. Hence, Buddhist critiques of sacrificial violence towards animals sanctioned by the Vedas were refuted by Mı¯ma¯m˙sa¯ thinkers, on the grounds that Buddhist relianceon reason and conscience blinded them to the axiomatic religious truths taught by the Veda.

        Source: Ethics in ancient India, John Bussanich.

        Yet you’ll hear the Hindutvas lay claim to the few decent things about Indian culture that were not even tied to Hinduism to begin with. This is what I was talking about up there. Anyhow I’ve prepared another article on Hindu ethics which I’ll upload in a few days. I do hope you’ll stick around, you were one of Robert’s better commenters.

      • aakash323 says:

        Dota

        I’ve been meaning to reply to this post for a while. Yes I agree that Buddhism managed to reform Hinduism to a very large extent that a lot of the (now) obscure practices like routine animal sacrifices (horse sacrifice etc.) disappeared in mainstream Hinduism. Some sects in Nepal and in India still follow these grotesque rituals which you probably know by know. However, Hinduism had to get its shit together to ward of Buddhism which culminated in Adi Shankara and his “Vedanta” philosophy. He was instrumental in warding off Buddhist philosophy from the mainstream.

        But more than reforming, I also believe that the (then) vegetarian tribes and sects were directly assimilated into Hinduism as Brahmins and that was the standard from then on. It is inconceivable that almost ALL of the existing Brahmins suddenly shunned meat consumption. This might also explain why Jains were never in a large number even though Jainism is a well formed religion. They just became Brahmins.

  2. Sandy says:

    BTW you can use the term that you want, but I disagree with the term Orient, you should be aware that China and India are completely different civilizations, in many aspects they are very different between each other like they are to the West, are they both Orient because they are in the same continent? by geography Europe is part of Asia as Eurasia, if the Caucasus are the supposed barrier between Europe and “Asia” ,we could say the Himalayas are a barrier between China and India as well, there is Sinic civilization or Hindic civilization, there isn’t an Orient.

  3. WmarkW says:

    “It bothers us deeply that most wimpy whites are also males.”
    I don’t think the four opinions described here are more common among males than females; females are more vocal and proud to hold these opinions, while males go along with them wimpily because women have them snatched. It’s women who primarily go for non-Western or non-traditional religions like yoga, wicca, Bahai, or gaiaism.

    Diversity should be practiced the way it used to be in New York City, with each ethnicity living in a community that reflects its culture and values — Little Italy, Spanish Harlem, Chinatown. If I want to experience Indian culture, I can visit Little India. I don’t need a family in the next apartment wafting their cooking orders through my home. (Note: I don’t actually live in NYC.)

    When you’re looking for a place to live, do you look for neighbors who are like you or unlike you? Do families with small children look to live near young singles who stay up late at night partying? Do retirees look to live where kids ride bikes and skateboards on the sidewalks? Of course not, everyone wants to live where the neighbors share common expectations of public behavior.

  4. batterytrain says:

    The best case of wimpy Whites would be those recent “muslim converts”, they are the worst case of wimpy Whites I have seen, full of self-hate, loathing and a rejection of their proud history to feel “different” and a holier-than-thou attitude; my guess is that they were rejects of their Western civilization or victims of the recent nilhistic ethos of the social engineering enacted by Jew-libtardism. The stupidity and naivety of these people astound me, man I could go on and on….
    The best part is when they defend that bullshit faith and opinions and try to trick themselves into thinking they are enlightened folk and understand those poor oppressed misunderstood muslims!!!! Its like a pseudo dancing with wolves syndrome in rejection of modern society act. Surprisingly a lot of these people were ex-hippies.

    For every wimpy white or liberal there is, we should ship each individual one to hostile backwards countries such in the ME, Asia and Africa.

    • Bay Area Guy says:

      The best case of wimpy Whites would be those recent “muslim converts”, they are the worst case of wimpy Whites I have seen, full of self-hate, loathing and a rejection of their proud history to feel “different” and a holier-than-thou attitude

      Would you be referring to a certain Yvonne Ridley?

      • Batterytrain says:

        I’m talking about real muslim converts that I have seen, observed and talked to unfortunately.

  5. mixedraced says:

    Maybe in America. In the UK whites have become more supportive and liking of their countries traditions and history, espscially colonialism. I’m not against that support if they only speak and think of its positives/good things.

    • Dota says:

      White wimpiness is primarily a North American cultural phenomenon. It stands diametrically opposed to every ideal of North America’s Protestant heritage.

      • Batterytrain says:

        I disagree, it is endemic in Western world or any country that has been affected by political correctness and large amounts of jewry.

      • Dota says:

        PC maybe. But this obsession with eastern spirituality, environmentalism, and pussy worship seems to be a North American thing.

  6. mixedraced says:

    Generally, Europe is having a traditional resurgence.

  7. Manny says:

    Fredrick Nietchies “Anti Christ” is a good read for folks here.

    He has articulated much better about the christians and Islamic culture and religion./.. But interestingly he had positive things to say about Buddhism and even Brahmins.. Tsk Tsk

  8. Manny says:

    Here is a nice artcile on the changing of America.

    In Newsweek Magazine
    We Are All Hindus Now

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/08/14/we-are-all-hindus-now.html

    I am so glad Americans are giving up on their JEalous god and religious supremacy born from the arm pit of America (The babel belt). and Islam is rightly one of the most hated religion and culture in the world today.

    🙂

    • Dota says:

      You really are a triumphalist aren’t you? A few useful idiots from the cultural left throw you a few crumbs and you declare it a victory feast? A few cultural orphans (mostly young white females) sign up for yoga and you think Hinduism is taking over?

      Oh well, we don’t ban on delusional thinking here, so go right ahead. We do however, ban on trolling. So don’t try and pull the same stunts here as you do on Robert’s blog.

      • Bay Area Guy says:

        A few cultural orphans (mostly young white females) sign up for yoga and you think Hinduism is taking over?

        Well Dota, I guess the statements you and Atheist Indian made to the effect that desis worship white pussy weren’t far off the mark.

      • Manny says:

        Come on..Don’t tell me that white females doing Yoga does not chaff your butt… I bet you would love it if and when all the white females wear a Burkha! eh? LOL 🙂

        Admit it.

      • Manny says:

        To your queation “You really are a triumphalist”. The answer is YES..a Resounding YES.

        The triumphancy is not in converting others into Hinduism.. No No No.. I could care less if they are Hindus or Jews or Buddhists or Jains or Shintoist or Zoroastrians..or Voodoo worshippers. But in the rejection of the vilest hateful doctrine of the jealous petulant child of the god of christianity and Islam. The goat herders culture from the middle east..the two predatory parasitic eviI shit of religion needs to go.. These two have no place in decent society.

        Its a moral obligation of every decent human being to wok towards getting these two rid from the face of this earth.

        🙂

      • Dota says:

        For all the mental acrobatics of Hindu philosophy, for all the sophistical arguments about god and reality; what has it produced? India: the largest public toilet in the world.

        As for the Carpenter’s religion, for all its simplicity, has produced the west: functioning, welfare societies driven by compassion. How many soup kitchens does India have tough guy? Yeah I thought so. Let’s all sit and meditate on escaping the world instead of feeding the hungry and providing shelter for the orphans.

        The recent floods in India and Calgary contrast the difference in civilizations. Now go on, spam the site about how evil Westerners and Arabs have been throughout history. Makes no difference in the here and now son. That you are spamming your crap from Texas instead of India proves my point. Mouth of all you like, but as BAG likes to say: “immigrants vote with their feet.”

        Thank you for your vote

      • Manny says:

        You seem to confuse western civilization with the middle eastern goat herders civilization.

        Western civilization is wonderful.. When I say western I mean greek civilization. Western civilization survve in spite of the shitty middle eastern crappy culture…not because of it.

      • Manny says:

        as for as failure of India is converted is due to the middle eastern culture othat polluted India for over 700 years..a Barbaric murderous evil shit… and 300 years of anglican tyranny (with some positive influence of western culture) and the final nail on the head was the Nehru the commie socialist shit and his family and the NAzi worshipping Bengali culture have been doing India in.
        Hindus and Hinduism is a minority culture that has managed to survive in the midst of leftist slum ghetto culture of India.,..

        We have all seen christian culture in Latin America and Haiti etc..it has not done any shit! It’s just poverty and church planting..not very different from poverty and mosques and ullalating 5 times a day in the grotesque middle eastern shitpit. If it wasn’t for oil, the no one would give a shit about the middle east.. it would be been bombed long time ago.

      • Bay Area Guy says:

        Western civilization survve in spite of the shitty middle eastern crappy culture…not because of it.

        Is it seriously your assertion that Christianity played no positive or substantive role in forming Western civilization as we know it today?

        Moment of truth here.

      • Manny says:

        Christianity has no redeeming quality of any kind. It’s an abomination for mankind. 🙂

    • Bay Area Guy says:

      and the final nail on the head was the Nehru the commie socialist shit and his family and the NAzi worshipping Bengali culture have been doing India in.

      Damn Dota, you meet one Hindutva and you’ve met them all. Like our old friend Jaipal, “Nehruvian secularism” is one of his top excuses for India’s sorry state.

      • Manny says:

        The greatest cruely of Nehru was, he made wealth creation an abomination poverty distribution a moral virtue.

        In 1947, India had nothing but a few Jute factory. The cabridge educated socialist and an immoral cad who never worked for a living.. (he inherited his wealth) set forth an economic policy that made 700 million too live in abject poverty.. This is Indian Holocaust.. this leftist policy and admin have remained in power 90% of the time.. and yes..they own 90% ownership of Indians problem/.

        Mind you, I have no problem with socalism as long as you have earned it..if Germany a country that is so productive decide on social program with the wealth they have created its their own business. But to recommend socialism and welfare society for a country that has no wealth, its cruelty of immense proportion.

        India’s Dharmic culture is Capitalistic in nature..they have traded with arabs and people from others part all thorough centuries.. They even worship the Godess Lakshmi of wealth as much as they worship Saraswathi the Godess of knowledge… but Nehru and the leftists of West Bengal and Kerala brought into India an alien socialist culture that has mass murdered millions of women and children.

      • Dota says:

        Yeah, it’s like these Hindutvas walk of a conveyor belt.

        We have all seen christian culture in Latin America and Haiti etc..it has not done any shit!

        Complete rubbish. Cuba has an excellent healthcare system despite the US’s attempts at trying to economically choke the country to death.

        Equador has far better numbers than India does, most Latin American countries do. Nutrition, hunger, infant mortality, access to clean water, violence against women, ect… India’s far behind.

        Western civilization survve in spite of the shitty middle eastern crappy culture…not because of it.

        Factually incorrect, as is virtually everything your keyboard excretes. The Church preserved Greek philosophy’s analytical tradition. They copied, translated, and preserved texts. Papal buls were issued and several colleges and universities were founded by the Church. The Church even invented the master’s degree which gave graduates the right to teach (latin:ius ubique docendi) Contrast this to India’s primitive Gurukul system that only accepted Brahmins and taught them nothing of value.

        Christian Byzantine art and architecture is essentially Greco/Roman. Ditto for Renaissance art, except that it was improved by the introduction of geometric perspective in the 14th century.

        Western civilization is a synthesis of two traditions, the rational and analytical traditions of the Greeks coupled with the ethical framework of Christianity. I don’t blame you for not being able to grasp the ethical side of the equation, for as an Indian, ethics must be as incomprehensible to you as Calculus to a Chimpanzee.

        And now I must retire for the night, work tomorrow. The rest of your education will have to wait till then.

      • Dota says:

        India’s Dharmic culture is Capitalistic in nature..they have traded with arabs and people from others part all thorough centuries.. They even worship the Godess Lakshmi of wealth as much as they worship Saraswathi the Godess of knowledge…

        True, the Baniyas do create wealth. But that wealth is never distributed. Indians have a poor record of philanthropy and charity, and this is still true. The Baniyas alone cannot lift India out of poverty when the rest of the population lacks skills and literacy.

  9. hitler was jewish says:

    what could be wimpier then worshiping the jewgod jesus, bowing down to the christling on the cross…the prince of peace, the lamb…the mary magdalene beta male whore monger.

    no surprise that wimpy jewsus hails from the desert lands, heroic whites come from the forest lands..and we worship germanic giants and warriors, our ancestors… in cathedral like forests, the sacred trees….which we only cut down to hang criminal nazi-renes on.

    • Eren Jäger says:

      Hitler wasn’t Jewish. The myth comes from the fact that Hitler had the M173 E1b Haplogroup subclade, which 10-20% of Germans and 10% of Ashkenazi Jews have. Only 20% of E1b Germans get M173 from Jews.

      Native Americans and African Pygmies worship forest deities and many Orientals practice ancestral worship. Aboriginal Australians literally worship themselves. Jesus wasn’t a Jew in the modern sense, he was related to Sephardic Jews, who descend from the Hebrews. Modern day “Jews” are Ashkenazi, who have Khazar and Slavic origins. So Christianity is not a “Jewish” religion, it is a Hebrew or Middle Eastern one.

      I guess heroic Whites do come from forest lands….Romulus and Remus: founders of Rome were raised by wolves in the forest, or so the legend goes.

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  12. bohemianwriter1 says:

    Ever heard of the Iroquois confederation?
    5 nations. Living in peace – in a confederation. Only women could vote. They taught the founding fathers about the modern day democracy.

    USA has ALWAYS been a culturally diverse society. It doesn’t matter what you think. The WASP culture you apparently worship has proven to be the most violent culture the last 1000 years. So neither Africans, Native Americans, Arabs, Jews, Gypsies, Asians, Persians or any other are obliged to assimilate to the “Leave it to Beaver”/Coca Cola culture and corporatism that many religious hypocrites seem to embrace.
    And regards to Jesus, he demanded that you give up your wealth and leave it for the poor in order to be a worthy disciple. And he was a dark skinned Jew who didn’t speak English, was homeless most of the time, hung around with 12 guys whom shared all they had, hated rich people, committed hooliganism against capitalists, and gave out free lunches and healed people for nothing.

    Other than that, your flawed rant was hilarious. Found it in Fundies Says The Darndest Thing. And you sir, are right up there with the ignoramuses and lunatics..

    • Dota says:

      The US never existed before the WASPS. You had a bunch of aboriginals that had no concept of nationhood, did not even invent writing (the Mayans were an exception) and didn’t invent the wheel. The US was grounded upon ideology and that is the difference between the United States of America and an untamed wilderness called the North American continent. None of this justifies the genocide of the aboriginals but most races have committed atrocities and genocide. Ever hear of Genghis Khan? His people brought the black death to Europe. Why don’t you loony leftists level genocide charges against him?

      And regards to Jesus, he demanded that you give up your wealth and leave it for the poor in order to be a worthy disciple. And he was a dark skinned Jew who didn’t speak English, was homeless most of the time, hung around with 12 guys whom shared all they had, hated rich people, committed hooliganism against capitalists, and gave out free lunches and healed people for nothing.

      I’ve addressed this vapid liberal screed here.

      ther than that, your flawed rant was hilarious. Found it in Fundies Says The Darndest Thing. And you sir, are right up there with the ignoramuses and lunatics..

      And I found your plagiarism equally hilarious. Didn’t you liberal lemmings ever learn to quote your sources?

      • Huax says:

        Why don’t you loony leftists level genocide charges against him?

        He’s dead and Mongol atrocities were raised when their imperial subjects rebelled and forced them back to Mongolia. I think that’s settled well enough. Just for curiosity’s sake, do you consider South Africa to be a permanent Western homeland?

      • bohemianwriter1 says:

        I regard your remarks as a pathetic attempt to excuse your ancestors Holocaust style genocide and defending your Theft of other people’s property.
        Why do you think that property rights only applies to freeloading WASPs you dingbat?

      • Dota says:

        Look man, you had better watch your tone or I’m going to have to ban you. You can attack our positions on various issues all you want here, and that’s fine. You don’t, however, get to attack us personally.

        And finally, nobody is excusing anything. What makes Israeli apartheid and land theft more deplorable is that the Zionists were clearly in awe of the North American settler project. They should have known better. When the Europeans came over to North America, they didn’t do so with the intent of committing genocide and stealing land. There was room for everybody. What happened over the next 500 years was surely regrettable but was by no means premeditated. The Zionazi project was aimed at ethnic cleansing the Arabs from Palestine from the very beginning. The world isn’t black and white.

      • bohemianwriter1 says:

        Maifest Destiny had a clear goal. And what your ancestors did is by no means better than what the Zionists have done to the Palestinians, or what Christian Europeans did to the Jews and Gypsies.
        My tone of voice is of no importance here. The important thing is that you as an American own up to your history of a violent, suppressive and genocidal history!

      • Dota says:

        First of all, they were not my ancestors as I was born in India. Next time at least look at the about us page before surrendering to your liberal knee jerk reaction. Manifest destiny came about in the 18th century whereas the idea of ethnically cleansing Palestine was born before the first European Jew set foot in Palestine. That is the difference. I don’t know why you are having such a hard time following this.

  13. Steven says:

    1) TRUE.

    “When asked to produce something from these exotic traditions that even remotely compare to the ethical teachings of Matthew’s sermon on the mount…”

    Jesus:

    “But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
    40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also”.

    Geshe Langri Tangpa (8 verses of mind training):

    “5) When others, out of envy, treat me unfairly
    With scolding, insults, and more,
    May I accept the loss upon myself
    And offer the victory to others.”

    Togmay Zangpo (37 practices of a Buddha’s child):

    “If, in the grip of violent desire or cruel necessity, an unfortunate person steals our possessions or incites someone else to steal them, to be full of compassion, to dedicate to this person our body, possessions, and past, present, and future merit, is a practice of the Bodhisattva….

    Even if we are beaten or tortured, we must not allow any aversion to arise within us. To have great compassion for those poor beings who out of ignorance mistreat us is a practice of the Bodhisattva….

    If someone who we have helped and protected as our own child shows only ingratitude and dislike in return, to have toward this person the tender pity a mother has for her sick child is a practice of the Bodhisattva…

    …To be perfectly patient, without irritation or resentment toward anyone, is a practice of the Bodhisattva.”

    The above quotes are from the lojong (mind training) teachings of Tibetan Buddhism.

    Jesus:

    “Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.”

    Geshe Langri Tangpa:

    “May I always cherish all limited beings ”

    Togmay Zangpo:

    “What use is our happiness when they still suffer? To generate Bodhicitta in order to liberate infinite beings is a practice of the Bodhisattva.”

    The development of love and compassion for all sentient beings and the wish to gain enlightenment in order to be of service to others and help to liberate all sentient beings from suffering is an absolutely central and essential part of Tibetan Buddhism (and all of Mahayana Buddhism for that matter).

    Jesus said that the most important commandments are 1) to love God and 2) to love thy neighbour. This is comparable to arguably the most important, central teachings of Tibetan Buddhism: 1) Ultimate Bodhicitta and 2) relative/conventional Bodhicitta. Ultimate Boddhicitta is insight into the ultimate nature of things. Relative/conventional Bodhicitta is the wish to gain enlightenment in order to liberate all sentient beings out of love and compassion for all sentient beings.

    The Jesus quotes may not have been from the sermon on the mount but I think I have made my point.

    Lastly, I maintain that the Buddhist view of (a) the ultimate nature of ones own mind and of the universe and (b) the methods for attaining such insights are in both cases (a, intellectually and b, practically) superior to anything the Christian tradition has to offer. Its far more philosophically profound and sophisticated and far more suitable to the scientific age.

    After reading something else you wrote about it in a reply, I will just add that gaining insight into the ultimate nature of things, into ones own consciousness, is hardly escapist. On the contrary, it is the ultimate way to face reality. To continue to ignore the ego challenging truths, as one has done for eons, is really the escapism.

    In practice, not everybody in a Buddhist culture is actively seeking enlightenment. There will, however, be found a general respect for the principle of compassion and an awareness of ethics (don’t lie, steal, cheat, murder etc).

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    2) Neither true nor false is adequate.

    We shouldn’t worry about building cities and carving out our place in the natural world, which sometimes involves cutting down trees (for e.g. to extend the airport in London), but at the same time we obviously need to live in balance with nature since we are a part of it and depend on it for our existence. Clearly we need to preserve a significant amount of the current trees in the world and maybe even plant more. This is simply a scientific conviction, not a sentimental one.

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    3) False.

    Its just not that realistic. I’m happy for them to be part of ruling it.

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    4) False. I don’t care about diverse perspectives. I care about the truth.

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    • Dota says:

      You just love your Buddhism don’t you steve

      • Steven says:

        I can’t say that I’ve had a completely harmonious relationship with it.

        You really love your Christianity, don’t you?

        But the fact of the matter is that most people in the west just aren’t buying it any more…one life then an eternity in heaven or hell… being a forever limited, separate being to God… some people being born into great lives while others suffer horribly on God’s watch…. creationism vs evolution etc.

        And what good is a great moral tradition if people don’t buy it? The high IQ, modern, scientifically literate people believe in it at even lower rates than everybody else.

        Christianity may have had a significant influence on the development of science, capitalism, western morality, human rights and democracy but now we have those things, they have taken on a life of their own and they can be adopted by non-christian countries.

        Certainly Japan has done a good job with science, capitalism and democracy. The same can be said for South Korea. These countries compare favorably with western ones in some respects. The Dalai Lama has made the TIbetan government in exile democratic and I believe that had he been the leader of a free Tibet, he would have made the country a democracy, just as Mongolia now is. Even Taiwan is a democracy and Taiwan is a han Chinese country. That is all of the NE Asian countries except N. Korea and China. There’s no doubt China has the human capital to make it work, not that I expect that to happen any time soon.

        If you are comparing Christianity to Hinduism, I’m sure you can make a very good case for the superiority of Christian morality and the affects on civilisation. India is an easy target for this kind of analysis since its such a big, corrupt, impoverished, divided mess right now and is going to be for quite some time.

        Its good to appreciate the Christian heritage and influence on our culture and society- I’m with you on that. Especially given the new atheist, religion is the source of all evil in the world and never did any good crowd.

      • Dota says:

        If you are comparing Christianity to Hinduism, I’m sure you can make a very good case for the superiority of Christian morality and the affects on civilisation. India is an easy target for this kind of analysis since its such a big, corrupt, impoverished, divided mess right now and is going to be for quite some time.

        You don’t have to point to India at all. When Arthur Danto critiqued Hinduism he did so without leveling a single accusation against Indian society. Deconstructing Hinduism can easily reveal it’s flawed philosophical center.

        Christianity may have had a significant influence on the development of science, capitalism, western morality, human rights and democracy but now we have those things, they have taken on a life of their own and they can be adopted by non-christian countries.

        It’s funny because Danto makes the very same argument in Mysticism and Morality but then contradicts it by rejecting Hume’s Fact/value dichotomy (to the best of my understanding). Moral beliefs are predicated on factual beliefs. The protestant work ethic that transformed a wilderness into 2 first world nations was predicated on the factual beliefs that there is a God and that imitating this God is the supreme end. If God laboured to create the world, and if man is made in the image of God, then man imitates God by creating as well. If God realized his godhood via the act of creation, so too does man realize this humanity via creation and thus leaves his indelible stamp upon nature.

        The European settlers certainly believed all this and were able to accomplish in 500 years what the aboriginals could not in 10,000 years (excluding the Mayans who were advanced).

        But this Protestant work ethic crumbles if belief in the God that inspired it crumbles. Witness this in the low levels of job satisfaction rampant across the west. Witness how millennials disdain manual labour and measure the worth of work solely on the metric of remuneration. Christianity is still relevant today.

        quick edit: In philosophy, “factual beliefs” are different from their counterparts in the domain of science. In the latter, they must be verified empirically whereas in the former they are merely true/false statements about the universe that needn’t be verified empirically.

  14. Steven says:

    Also, the fact of the matter is that only a small minority of whites are interested in eastern spirituality at this point. Most of them have not replaced Christianity with anything except materialism and hedonism. In the UK, Christianity is well on its way to being history.

    However, hopefully there will be other vehicles to enable westerners to attain the same insights as William Blake:

    “To see a World in a Grain of Sand
    And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
    Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
    And Eternity in an hour.”

  15. Ashton says:

    Its true that Whites often act retarded and make themselves Vulnerable in the eyes of the others… I donno why many act like wiggers…Most of them are in a muddled state having doubts about their own superiority. Cmon we made this world what are we afraid of why should be act wimpy….

  16. Christopher says:

    This Earth is not ours. We share it will millions of other species. We engage in a tug o war? Would you call killing off millions of other species, polluting and poisoning the Earth’s rivers, seas and air. Destroying entire habitats to replace them with farming or housing (then calling animals ‘pests’) a game of tug o war? I’d call it ecocide.

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